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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 19:54:09 GMT
2.Lynryd Skynyrd: Swamp people who made it big.  
LMAO! No, I don't even remember hearing that news when it happened. Then again, I was probably only 8 or 9. I don't wish any ill will upon them. I just think they look like Duck Dynasty rejects.  |
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Post by unomusette on Jul 31, 2014 20:31:44 GMT
Straight away I thought of Bruce Springsteen. I know he does really long shows and pleases the pants off his fans, but to me it's just shouty bland US Dad-rock with lots of sweating. I especially can't BEAR his Santa Claus is coming to Town *retches* and whenever he comes on the radio I involuntarily shriek "Bloody Bruce!" and switch off.
Rihanna should put some clothes on and grow up. And shut up too if possible. That Diamonds song sounds like the noise a cat might make if it was being grated. And then wrung out.
REM - I quite liked "The one I love" but then Michael Stipe's droney voice became irksome. And it went on for years, ugh. Can't understand why they're worshipped almost as much as the dreaded Bruce. They are musical porridge.
Miley bloody Cyrus. Keep your crotch in your pants and out of our faces, can't you? She has a face that itches to be slapped and should be barricaded inside her house till she ceases to be a danger to kids' psyches, not allowed to squirm around the stage with her tongue out. See Rihanna above.
I'm sure there's a fifth person equally atrocious, but off the top of my head I wish Paul McCartney would retire. His voice is really not what it was but out he comes at every opportunity, pulling his "cute" face which looks daft at his age and desperately trying to get everyone to sing along endlessly to Hey Jude. It won't do.
And also at such events there's usually a horrid mass sing along at the end to...and it's always this song...Johnny B Good. Aaaaarrrghhhh!
Can't we have fireworks instead?
Thanks for the opportunity to rant, I feel cleansed.
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Post by Rob 2095 on Jul 31, 2014 21:24:15 GMT
'Just to clarify and make sense of some lists: overrated by whom? The general record buying public? Snobby industry critics? Hipsters?
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Post by Helmut83 on Jul 31, 2014 21:55:12 GMT
Just making a marginal note that maybe I should have made before: this thread is not about the artists you hate most, but about the ones which you think are overrated. What's the difference? For example, I really hate the Beastie Boys, but almost nobody rates them as geniuses so they wouldn't apply for an overrated artists ranking. The joke is picking between those artists that are widely regarded as something magnificent and you think they don't really deserve that status. For example: Miley bloody Cyrus. Keep your crotch in your pants and out of our faces, can't you? She has a face that itches to be slapped and should be barricaded inside her house till she ceases to be a danger to kids' psyches, not allowed to squirm around the stage with her tongue out. See Rihanna above. Unomusette, who rates Rihanna or Miley Cirus highly? They cannot be overrated simply because they aren't well-rated to start with, not by 90% of the public at least (I would say nobody except for some young teens). You hate them, that is clear, but that's another thing. Same for One Direction and for rappers. |
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Post by Helmut83 on Jul 31, 2014 22:02:44 GMT
'Just to clarify and make sense of some lists: overrated by whom? The general record buying public? Snobby industry critics? Hipsters? Rob: overrated by Joe Public. You know that big, fat, nice fellow, don't you? From time to time he makes a trip to the store to buy a few records, and sometimes he even writes some reviews. Also, in the last paragraph of your previous post you wrote that Kiss and Eminem shouldn't have been listed because both of them were considered jokes since shortly after they made it big, so I see you completely understood the point. And yeah, that's the whole idea of this thread: throwing a few stones at sacred cows.  |
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Post by nicolas on Jul 31, 2014 22:07:04 GMT
Jeff Lynne could kill you for that... |
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Post by Rob 2095 on Jul 31, 2014 23:47:20 GMT
Jeff Lynne could kill you for that...
Anyway, Lennon came across as an artist who was always deeply adored by most of the public and by nearly all of the critics of his time. The guy is still retroactively viewed as having been a god among men, just as much for his worldviews, caustic humor and his early death as for his music it seems.
Does his solo career and output deserve the kind of reverence it has been given for the last few decades, though? I don't know, but he strikes me as someone who has been "overrated". It's just an impression that has developed. |
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Post by Rob 2095 on Jul 31, 2014 23:58:27 GMT
'Just to clarify and make sense of some lists: overrated by whom? The general record buying public? Snobby industry critics? Hipsters? Rob: overrated by Joe Public. You know that big, fat, nice fellow, don't you? From time to time he makes a trip to the store to buy a few records, and sometimes he even writes some reviews. Also, in the last paragraph of your previous post you wrote that Kiss and Eminem shouldn't have been listed because both of them were considered jokes since shortly after they made it big, so I see you completely understood the point. And yeah, that's the whole idea of this thread: throwing a few stones at sacred cows. |
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Post by Helmut83 on Aug 1, 2014 0:56:00 GMT
Oh I see. The problem is: it's hard to recognize who is or isn't a sacred cow when the opinions of critics, editors and publications in general (who can shape public opinion, unfortunately) don't factor in. I think it's safe to say that listeners develop a certain level of bewilderment or resentment towards acts who appear to be universally loved and over-hyped. Something like that. I think it's quite normal to get a bit annoyed when they are talking wonders about an artist who you feel is nohwere as good as they say. Oh, and there's no need to factor the opinion of critics and editors out of the equation, because if we go once again to our friend Joe, we will see that Joe is himself and his circumstances. If he was born and bred in a cabin in the middle of nowhere with no contact with society but only with a CD player and thousands of albums at his disposal, by the age of 20 he would like some artists more than others. Now, let's take that same Joseph back to society and we will see that the way he interacts with his family, friends, teachers and other acquaintances and their musical tastes, what he gets to listen on the radio, the clips he sees on TV channels, the reviews he reads and the concerts that he goes to (because not every artist plays in his hometown) will make our friend have some tastes completely different to those developed in the cabin (although there are people more prone to be influenced by those circumstances than others). What do I mean by this? That when you try to separate public from critics, have in mind that the public's tastes are not virgin to the critics moulding power. |
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Post by Rob 2095 on Aug 1, 2014 1:42:48 GMT
Yeah, I see what you mean. Joe lived an odd life. 
Some people are more malleable than others and hold opinions more flexible than those of others. It's true that there are many factors in making a listener's perception and tastes, but it seems as though the professional critics and even radio DJs ('forgot to mention them earlier) still mold or have the ability to mold the public "status" of artists / acts a great deal.
This isn't really related, but: as has been pointed out earlier in the thread, you mentioned that you thought Queen was and is overrated. Is this because of their wide and far ranging appeal, the level of flamboyance and theatricality that they got away with, or what? I've always enjoyed Queen and some of the other acts you listed, but can also see why others would view them as being overrated or even off-putting at times.
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Post by Helmut83 on Aug 1, 2014 2:02:37 GMT
Rob 2095: It's because, in my opinion, all of those factors you mentioned plus the way Farrokh Bulsara lived and died (you know, bisexual, trasvestite, died very young, of AIDS, etc...) raised them to a status of legends or even music gods -I hate the term, even when I am not religious- that in my opinion puts them far over what their musical output was worth. Don't get me wrong, I don't consider them to be a bad band by any means. I think they were very good and talented, good with their instruments, great singers (except Deacon) and the fact that all 4 of them were able to write major hits is something you rarely see in a rock n roll band. Also, I think at least 80% of what they did is worth listening to, but when it comes to songs which really get me or cause some strong emotion -of any kind- in me, there's only one: "It's a hard life" (which, BTW, has a chorus which is pretty much a ripoff of "Midnight Blue", if anyone ever realized). The main reason is that: despite all the hype, despite knowing they were good musucians and all that, they almost have no songs I find great. And there's one more thing: the style. Like I said before, it sounds like music from musicals to me, and I loathe muscials. That flamboyance you talk about was reflected not only in their visual displays but in the way they played and sang, and I dislike that. That's all.
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Post by Rob 2095 on Aug 1, 2014 2:38:29 GMT
Rob 2095: It's because, in my opinion, all of those factors you mentioned plus the way Farrokh Bulsara lived and died (you know, bisexual, trasvestite, died very young, of AIDS, etc...) raised them to a status of legends or even music gods -I hate the term, even when I am not religious- that in my opinion puts them far over what their musical output was worth.
In Mercury's case, I feel like it reflects the "trend" of some people's willingness or wanting to love and admire those very different than themselves. It appears as though many were in awe of him because they saw a performer on stage who had a larger than life image and an incredibly flamboyant personality... traits that they (most likely) lacked themselves or may not have even wanted for their own personality or in their daily sphere of influence, but admired when viewed from afar. 'Who knows for sure.Don't get me wrong, I don't consider them to be a bad band by any means. I think they were very good and talented, good with their instruments, great singers (except Deacon) and the fact that all 4 of them were able to write major hits is something you rarely see in a rock n roll band. Also, I think at least 80% of what they did is worth listening to, but when it comes to songs which really get me or cause some strong emotion -of any kind- in me, there's only one: "It's a hard life" (which, BTW, has a chorus which is pretty much a ripoff of "Midnight Blue", if anyone ever realized). The main reason is that: despite all the hype, despite knowing they were good musucians and all that, they almost have no songs I find great. And there's one more thing: the style. Like I said before, it sounds like music from musicals to me, and I loathe muscials. That flamboyance you talk about was reflected not only in their visual displays but in the way they played and sang, and I dislike that. That's all.
I was initially drawn to them, as a band, at around the same time that I was to ELO, but didn't keep listening with the same frequency. Both groups (or at least Lynne and Mercury) appeared to have shared a similar sense and love of melody. The personal guitar styles of Idle Race era Lynne and Brian May sound eerily similar at times, by the way. |
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Post by Helmut83 on Aug 1, 2014 3:04:29 GMT
Similar things can be said for the likes of Buddy Holly, Lennon, Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Michael Jackson and of course others who passed away relatively early. Each and every of them in my opinion. And yes, as much as I admire Lennon in the Beatles era, I consider his solo work to be quite poor. Out of "Imagine" (the album), which had some good songs, I don't like almost every other thing he did, and he did many. Jim Morrison... this guy and the Doors are the ultimate example of what we have just been saying. 0% music, 100% legend. About Buddy Holly, I think he is overrated too, but have in mind that in his times rock and pop were still terribly undeveloped (he died in 1959!) and were yet to escape the 3-chords eggshell, so what we perceive as very basic could have sounded innovative in those days just because of a few details he added. |
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Post by 88keys on Aug 1, 2014 7:57:01 GMT
'Just to clarify and make sense of some lists: overrated by whom? The general record buying public? Snobby industry critics? Hipsters? My choices were based on a combination of fans and critics. And I thought of five more! Madonna....The girl who was once "like a virgin", is now like a grandma, and still just as annoying. Motley Crue....Maybe not overrated by critics, but fans have loved them for thirty years, and I have no earthly idea why. Awful! Reba McEntire....I hate country music, for the most part, and she is just one of the worst! Some of the most cookie cutter, insipid songs I've ever heard. Taylor Swift....I consider her to be the musical equivalent of a dry rice cake. Herman's Hermits...The worst "British Invasion" band ever. Peter Noone is virtually talentless. |
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Post by jrmugz on Aug 1, 2014 14:33:44 GMT
1- AC/DC ...Bar band that got lucky. HATE Brian Johnson's voice. 2- KISS...Gimmicky, bad songwriting, terrible singing. A band that floated by on their image alone. 3 - Dave Matthews Band...I cannot stand his voice, and the endless noodling on the songs. Borrrrriiiinnngg...... 4 - Ozzy Osbourne....CANNOT SING! Another one who got by on his gimmick alone. 5 - Grateful Dead...OMG how I hate them. If 30 minute long songs with no melodic structure are your thing, then hey, enjoy it. I like that list. I've always never understood why people think AC/DC are so great. Jim |
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Apparently it's quite hard to see them with the naked eye, you need to be looking through a camera or other type of lens?
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