Do you really think so, queenofthehours ? I kind of get what you are saying, but if I had to say which band of the two (ELO and Queen) is considered more fashionable, cool and trendy I'd say Queen, without a doubt.
And this by people who knows both bands, because 98% of the people know Queen while 10% if most knows ELO.
Queen are hugely popular but I think they lack the cool of ELO because ELO has the backing of the critics.
Since "coolness" is essentially a concept invented by critics and they are largely behind Jeff having a successful comeback - I'll count Chris Evans as a critic because he has a position of influence and a voice - Jeff is now steeped in cool. However, this does not take away from the fact that he is and was always popular. And just like Queen, when people say they do not like ELO they are fibbing!
BoRhap, despite the hate of critics, may have caused Queen to become cool because they are popular with new fans (the kids too young to remember Freddie alive) but to the old fans they remain just as plain popular as ever they were and coolness doesn't play a part. After all, critics have never been friendly towards them and Roger Taylor himself talks of how the band was popular but not fashionable. I never knew Queen was supposed to be uncool until after I saw the film. I thought that it was just the movie which the critics hated but then I realised it was the whole band. If they had Evans to speak for them maybe attitudes would shift?
Coolness isn't important to ELO's popularity either, it was just a happy occurrence that the critics happened to agree with us for once. Every time I mention ELO to people they smile and they all know ‘MBS’ and who Jeff is. When I mention Queen to people they screw their faces up and make jokes about Brian’s hair. People make jokes about Jeff’s too but they are not as cruel as the ones about Brian so I think the tone critics take over bands can have some influence on how people react.
Also I can't say I've ever seen a magazine, until this last year, with Queen on the cover. Years ago I used to buy all the music magazines available and never once can I recall seeing Queen on their covers. Pink Floyd, Dylan, Hendrix, and Beatles even Jeff yes, but Queen never.
Queen might be the more popular band but I don't think they are the coolest simply because cool is a fallacy invented by critics whom we should be ignoring anyway. The fact that BoRhap made millions of pounds without good reviews says more about popularity that coolness. Once ELO was considered a guilty pleasure but not now, the power of being cool has made them an unashamed pleasure but Queen still seems to be guilty.
I am very pleased that all the young people have discovered Queen through the movie. This is why I think Rocketman will not be as popular with the youngsters, it just won't have the same fun charm and Elton isn't as pretty as either the BoRhap cast or Queen (or even Jeff).
I believe the reports about a sequel come from newspapers misinterpreting what Brian May once said. I think I read that he said there could be a sequel as there was enough story still to be told. But I think this was him just hypothesising. Roger certainly doesn't seem keen. I don't think it will ever happen but what might be good is a stage version of BoRhap? Like those West End versions of Dirty Dancing and Matilda. OK there's already We Will Rock You but that's a fantasy. A stage BoRhap would be just like a real gig.
Like I said, elophile , I had reservations about the film. NOBODY could adequately play Freddie. Fact.
The film gives an impression of him and the band. It isn't a detailed documentary. It doesn't dwell on some aspects. I wasn't going to bother with it - but, I'm glad I did. I have the bluray and have enjoyed the recreation (a very detailed recreation) of the Live Aid set. I've really bought into Rami's interpretation of Freddie.
Even so, I went back to look at the real thing.
The film has been a reminder, to me, on what Queen were/are actually like.
I agree, the film gives an impression of Freddie and the band and it isn't a documentary which is why I think the film works and the fact that it doesn't dwell on some aspects is why I like it. I wasn't going to bother with it because I was worried about how Freddie would be interpreted but I adore Rami and his version of Freddie. My doubts dissolved in that first scene of him at Heathrow. But one of the first things I said after the film ended was that I didn't think Rami looked much like Freddie.
However, there's more to embodying a person than looks alone. There was something behind Rami's eyes which spoke more of character than anything else and the way he moved - while not being as exact as real Fred (who can be?) - spoke of somebody who'd obviously gone to great lengths to get everything just right. Critics can criticise all they want about how Freddie was acted but the admiration with which Rami played him and the effort and sensitivity he put into the part mean more than just surface details because it shows respect. Something which, sadly, many actors in biopics fail with.
One of my favourite things about Rami's acting is that I found it good enough to distract me completely from the fake nose and his blue eyes (not from the teeth though!) and every time I play the DVD I still do not see them.
Timeblue: Not one but TWO Bev vids! We are indeed honoured!
May 16, 2020 14:45:01 GMT
orioles70: working from home has it perks, I noticed the birds were unusually noisy and sure enough - there is a rather large owl sitting in the tree just outside my dining room. Can't tell if he's waiting for prey or taking a nap.
May 18, 2020 17:18:50 GMT
BSJ: Very cool. For us, normally when all goes still, it means a hawk is hanging around.
May 18, 2020 17:54:13 GMT
Timeblue: Woke up the other day to a pile of sparrow feathers (minus the body...) our local sparrowhawk must have been hungry.
May 19, 2020 21:57:40 GMT
elophile: Hi friends! How is everyone? I've just been working and cooking and staying inside and enjoying my own backyard...::c0112::
May 20, 2020 23:58:17 GMT
elophile: I've been getting really into Procal Harum.
May 21, 2020 0:00:29 GMT
eloneen: elophile What's cooking in your Quarantine Kitchen these days?::t1935::
May 21, 2020 1:42:16 GMT
elophile: What isn't cooking eloneen ! Tonight we had homemade falafel with hummus, tahini, roasted beets and a chopped salad. I'm make a veggie lasagna tomorrow. How about your kitchen? Do tell!!
May 21, 2020 2:50:19 GMT
eloneen: The young man hosted Taco Tuesday last night, and this is Mr.Eloneen's week to prepare dinner (YESS!!!). Recently, he has made homemade apple pie, meat pies (inspired by our recent trip to the UK), burgers, biscuits from scratch, and chicken and waffles.
May 21, 2020 4:25:20 GMT
eloneen: Recently, I've made a delicious lentil and potato salad, jambalaya, roast pork loin with roasted veggies, but Hubby's the rising star! My mother wants him to cook all the time now! He made a cake (from scratch) for me and my mom for Mother's Day.
May 21, 2020 4:30:54 GMT
Horacewimp: Hi elophile I’m glad you are keeping well and occupying you time while in lockdown.
May 21, 2020 7:11:12 GMT
tremblinwilbury: eloneen - Biscuits? Don't you mean 'cookies'?
May 21, 2020 14:47:56 GMT