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Post by bhabs on Sept 10, 2014 2:36:25 GMT
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Post by Helmut83 on Sept 10, 2014 4:26:33 GMT
My god, the caliber of the artists featured there! Incredible!
I reckon "Junk" must not be an easy song to cover, but on the other hand if I had to put my money for someone who would do it well I cannot think of many guys better than Jeff.
On a more malicious note, I'm curious about Dylan's cover if "Things we said today". Having in mind how ruined his voice is (it was never very good to start with), I believe butchering is a possibility. In any case, it's very good of Zimmy to be doing this.
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Post by 88keys on Sept 10, 2014 6:52:12 GMT
Intriguing choice of a song for Jeff to cover, and not predictable, at all. The rest of the album sounds pretty solid, too.
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Post by unomusette on Sept 10, 2014 21:18:14 GMT
That does look one hell of a line-up, see what you mean about Bob, Helmut. I'd also be a bit wary of Chrissie Hynde covering Let it Be. On the other hand they're all bound to be an improvement on Macca's voice lately *hides from McCartney fans*
Slightly disappointing that Jeff only gets one track when some people get two, but it'll be a treat all the same.
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Post by Helmut83 on Sept 11, 2014 1:23:39 GMT
That does look one hell of a line-up, see what you mean about Bob, Helmut. I'd also be a bit wary of Chrissie Hynde covering Let it Be. On the other hand they're all bound to be an improvement on Macca's voice lately *hides from McCartney fans* Bob Dylan an improvement from Macca's voice?  Are you sure you are in your right mind (or should I say "in your right ear"?), unomusette? In other cases I would agree, but Bob Dylan...? Let me remind you of what we are talking about: |
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Post by bhabs on Sept 12, 2014 8:06:36 GMT
On the other hand they're all bound to be an improvement on Macca's voice lately *hides from McCartney fans* I'm a McCartney fan, and I agree with that. He doesn't sound too bad in the studio ( NEW was pretty good), but live? *shudder*  |
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Post by Helmut83 on Sept 12, 2014 15:29:19 GMT
On the other hand they're all bound to be an improvement on Macca's voice lately *hides from McCartney fans* I'm a McCartney fan, and I agree with that. He doesn't sound too bad in the studio ( NEW was pretty good), but live? *shudder* Just answer me this, both of you: do you think Bob Dylan will sound better than Paul McCartney? |
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Post by unomusette on Sept 12, 2014 22:08:01 GMT
Must admit, that Dylan clip was rather dire - I kept whizzing forward waiting for him to start and he was already whispering away. But Paul McC does it loudly so the horror is more in your ears. Brownie points to bhabs for seeing the dodgy side, fans who doggedly won't admit their idols' faults are most vexing. Have a gold star  |
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Post by Helmut83 on Sept 13, 2014 3:01:40 GMT
Hey, it's me against the world now, huh?
I said that in the cases of other artists I would agree about them singing better than Paul, which is recognizing that Paul (who, yes, you guessed, is my "idol") isn't singing well at all these days.
Now, is saying that McCartney still sings much better than Bob Dylan not admiting my idols' faults? No. Simply and plainly no.
What happens is that, even when both of them sing badly, Dylan sings much, much worse (if you can even call that "singing" at all). And you could call Bob Dylan my idol too -although I dislike the term-, so it's not that I have any bias against him. But geez, stating that Bob Dylan sings better than Paul McCartney (by including him in the term "all") is just being deaf and incredibly stubborn.
Will you continue to deceive yourselves just for the sake of winning a discussion against me?
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Post by Helmut83 on Sept 13, 2014 3:47:27 GMT
fans who doggedly won't admit their idols' faults are most vexing. Talking about vexing things, unomusette, if it was me who you were referring to, I would appreciate it if next time you wouldn't use indirect references but address me in a more direct fashion instead. It's just a matter of changing the general, undetermined term "fans" for the more precise and individualized "Helmut". That's how adults do it so I'm sure I can expect that from you next time, can't I? Thanks. |
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Post by unomusette on Sept 13, 2014 20:01:29 GMT
Helmut. If I wanted to argue with you I would and thoroughly enjoy it, but I had absolutely no idea Paul M is your idol, I just guessed you were suggesting that there are worse singers than him to stimulate some discussion. Remember I'm relatively new to this forum and I don't know everyone's preferences. And when it comes to stimulating discussion you're the maestro.
When I praised bhabs for admitting to McCartney's failings, you were actually far from my mind because as usual I was thinking about myself. I am a pretty rabid Muse fan but I'm the first to admit when they've dropped a clanger which makes me feel rather superior to the masses who won't hear a word said against them. That's not saying I'm right but that's my view and if I can't feel smug about my own views nobody else will.
You can have a gold star right along with bhabs because you too have the same enlightened outlook, I'm very sorry if I offended you but please be assured it wasn't intentional.
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Post by Helmut83 on Sept 14, 2014 16:07:35 GMT
unomusette, I had thought your comment was an elliptical critic to me, and what got me angry was not anything related to Paul McCartney or the discussion in itself, not even the criticism... what made me angry was what I though was an elliptical allusion instead of a direct one (if you want to make me mad, now you know the way  ). Now if you say it wasn't and it was just a misinterpretation, I must beg your pardon. The way this thread was developing made me think your comment was coming my way, but if it wasn't, everything is OK. I used to consider McCartney the best all-around musician I had known about until I came to know about Jeff Lynne, and when Paul came to Argentina I made an economical effort to go myself and take my mother (who is the cause of my taste for the Beatles for having and playing their records at home) to the show. However, there's not even one artist who is not subject to my criticism, and that includes Jeff Lynne (you probably have read something), the Beatles and Sir Paul. I am not, and hopefuly never will be, one of those blind persons that struggle to justify whatever crap their beloved idols will do. And thanks for the "discussion stimulating maestro" title!
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Post by unomusette on Sept 14, 2014 18:40:19 GMT
Helmut, you've confirmed my first impression of you as a person who just enjoys a good discussion and makes the most of it. The last intention I have in the world is to fall out with anyone on this forum, you are all my amazing fellow fanatics. And this is a happy place where we can express how we feel about all sorts of music. I've been on forums where people seem to hover about just waiting to start a row, you wouldn't believe how far those things can escalate. Our music is really important to us, but to be spiteful and sneaky about each other is not. As for Sir Paul, current vocal qualities put aside, nobody can seriously question his talent and massive influence on all the bands that matter these days. On this we are definitely agreed, so let's carry on as comrades, cheers!  |
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Post by Helmut83 on Sept 16, 2014 0:41:41 GMT
I've been on forums where people seem to hover about just waiting to start a row, you wouldn't believe how far those things can escalate. Ha! Tell that to me! I live in Argentina, and as you would expect, Argentine forums are full of Argentines. Talk about starting rows out of nowhere and being disrespectful and unpolite... |
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Post by queenofthehours on Sept 28, 2014 17:51:25 GMT
'Junk' is a lovely tune, I'm sure Jeff's version will be beautiful - it's just a shame it's so short. Some of the other musicians get more than one song to cover, it's unfair that Jeff only gets one track when he is virtually a Beatle himself!
Bob covering 'Things We Said Today': I'm sure he can sing as beautifully as he did in the old days if he tried.
I'm disappointed to see so many Beatles songs. The title says Art of McCartney not Art of the Beatles. And, anyway, aren't Beatles songs officially supposed to be Lennon/McCartney? No matter if the world knows for certain that Paul or John composed certain songs alone - it seems a little bit disrespectful to divide up the Beatles canon. |
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Are you sure you are in your right mind (or should I say "in your right ear"?), 
, but we're OK. 
Apparently it's quite hard to see them with the naked eye, you need to be looking through a camera or other type of lens?