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Post by elver on Jan 10, 2024 1:14:23 GMT
During the last days I've come with contact with Kenny Denton, producer for ELO during the ElDorado sessions and he has shared with me two unreleased songs, so I'm sharing them with you
Have a nice day!
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Post by helpless on Jan 10, 2024 6:51:40 GMT
During the last days I've come with contact with Kenny Denton, producer for ELO during the ElDorado sessions and he has shared with me two unreleased songs, so I'm sharing them with you
Have a nice day!
Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Chippa on Jan 10, 2024 16:28:27 GMT
Thanks for sharing, and thanks to engineer Kenny Denton. Here's a bit more background from Kenny, via the Jeff Lynne Song Database www.jefflynnesongs.com Memories of the album Eldorado Kenny Denton: Recording engineer 1969 - 2006
In 1969 I started my career at the legendary Pye studios London. I left Pye in 1971 to join De Lane Lea the first ever-purposed built recording studio in Wembley.
In January 1974 Jet Records booked the studio for a new ELO album, starting on Monday the 11th February. Dick Plant was the engineer requested as he had recorded the On the Third Day album with the band the previous year. Dick was already booked with another client for that week, so Louis Elman the studio manager asked me to start the recordings. I seem to remember that the band were to continue the sessions the following week, so I made it clear to Louis that I was getting married on the 16th of February and going on honeymoon, therefore I couldn't work after the 15th. I am sure Dick took aver the recordings from Monday the 18th.
I am still very much in touch with Dick and Mike and Lou Clark and have asked them if they can confirm the dates of the overdubbing and mixing time. Unfortunately Dick Plant and Mike don't remember what year it was never mind what weeks/months the album was recorded. Every session in those days were just general work in a very busy 4 studio complex.
The recording engineer for the orchestra/choir sessions was John Richards. John like myself was un-credited on the album, no big deal in those days just another gig. Dick Plant and Mike Pela did most of the work on the completion of the tracks and deserved a full credit.
I can't help with what tracks went down on what days as Jeff hadn't written the lyrics yet so the boxes would have been marked title one/two etc. the backing tracks were recorded in studio 2 and the guide slurring vocals and some overdubs were put down in studio 3.
There was a piano vocal of a song, chorus line entitled The Last Days Of September. A few years ago I found a copy of it in my loft and sent the unfinished recording to Lou Clark and asked him if he knew why Jeff never finished it and why this track never made it on the album. He replied to me with the following:
"I think the track could have come to something. Well it kind of did in as much as the sequence at the intro and outro and bridge is pretty well CAN'T GET IT OUT OF MY HEAD and the vocal line above it is what the choir sang on that song. I remember Jeff calling me a couple of days before the sessions and singing that line and asking me to include it".
My overview of the album is that the guys were really easy to get on with, although Jeff and I never had what would be called close working relationship.
I was never really happy with my work on the recording. With most artist you would get and idea of what they wanted, but this was difficult with Jeff as I am not sure he had a definite idea, or maybe it just found it hard working with me as he had already built a relationship with Dick Plant on their previous album.
Whenever I heard the finished album over the years the edits I did on the original mulittracks are appalling. Cutting 2 inch in those days was in its infancy, but this is no excuse my edits are dreadful.
I can tell you honestly the only time that week I thought those backing tracks had any legs, was when Jeff slurred through the guide vocals, hitting occasional lyrics. One of the guide chorus lines was "I'm dying", at that time the feel of the backing tracks I believed the album was going to be a concept album relating to the American Indians. Because Johnny Cash had recorded an awareness album to the plight and the true story of the suffering of those people, and the Movie Soldier Blue had been a huge success, and Jane Fonda and many others were promoting the same vibe. It wasn't just that one line there were several other lines, and the backing tracks had a very different feel before Lou's additions and final overdubs, and of course Jeff really wanted major success the USA.
One morning I had a session in studio 3 it was the morning after Dick had been recording the vocals on Can't Get It Out of My Head. I arrived early to set up my session and I knew the vocal session had been a late one. Engineers rules you must clear the desk and leave the studio completely clean and ready for the next session. On this particular morning, the studio was a mess the studio still had the vocal booth and Mic still in position. On the music stand there was Jeff lyrics, Midnight on the water etc., I read them through and thought what a pile of old rubbish and put the page of lyrics in the bin. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
It would be easy now to say I thought the whole album was a masterpiece from the start but honestly I stick by my original thoughts when I first heard the finished playback in the studio, with the strings and choir and no bloody reverb NONE! Only the echo effect on the vocals. It sounded like a bunch of expensive demos and I also think JET records and Mike Albuquerque could have thought the same at the time.
-Kenny Denton 11th August 2014
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Post by trekkielo on Jan 10, 2024 20:32:24 GMT
During the last days I've come with contact with Kenny Denton, producer for ELO during the ElDorado sessions and he has shared with me two unreleased songs, so I'm sharing them with you Have a nice day!
Sharing=caring Thanks!
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Post by Horacewimp on Jan 10, 2024 21:30:09 GMT
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Post by unomusette on Jan 11, 2024 22:43:36 GMT
Thanks elver, much appreciated
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Post by BSJ on Jan 12, 2024 18:56:53 GMT
Thanks elver! It sounded like a bunch of expensive demos...
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Post by muppetone on Jan 15, 2024 18:35:20 GMT
Thank you for sharing
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