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Post by Buttler on Mar 15, 2020 14:48:00 GMT
Buttler I know that even with the intense pace of work on it now, a vaccine will be a long time in the making, but I was heartened to hear from a leading epidemiologist and former CDC director on CNN today that he is optimistic about the work that is being done now to produce treatments in the next few months. These treatments could substantially reduce the number of cases that progress to the most severe degree, even though they would not offer a cure. That is not much help to those afflicted now, of course, but it is heartening nonetheless.  Hang in there, friend! I hope so.
Fingers crossed.
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Post by Helmut83 on Mar 15, 2020 17:18:31 GMT
I thought viruses couldn't be killed with a vaccine?
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Post by tremblinwilbury on Mar 15, 2020 21:11:06 GMT
I'm an optimist.
I think it's important to have some optimism in a world full of so much pessimism now.
I look forward to the day when we can meet again, freely as friends...
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Post by unomusette on Mar 15, 2020 21:12:36 GMT
...some wise words from C.S. Lewis, and I thought I'd share them because I agree that they are good to keep in mind during these times: "In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. "How are we to live in an atomic age?" I am tempted to reply: "Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents." In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty. This is the first point to be made: and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together. If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb when it comes find us doing sensible and human things—praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts—not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies (a microbe can do that) but they need not dominate our minds." I love this, thanks for posting 
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Post by Buttler on Mar 15, 2020 22:06:38 GMT
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Post by Timeblue on Mar 15, 2020 22:28:00 GMT
I'm going to get drunk with BSJ, wake me in the morning when this is all over....
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Post by eloneen on Mar 15, 2020 22:28:48 GMT
I thought viruses couldn't be killed with a vaccine? Vaccines are used for prevention of a variety of illnesses. Many of the common vaccines used today are given to prevent viral illnesses such as polio, measles, and various strains of influenza. You may be thinking of antibiotics, which only have the capacity to kill bacteria, and not viruses.
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Post by eloneen on Mar 15, 2020 22:30:20 GMT
I'm going to get drunk with BSJ, wake me in the morning when this is all over.... Be careful! If you don't have your wits about you, you might agree to have some cake and not wake up at all! 
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Post by Timeblue on Mar 15, 2020 22:34:18 GMT
The end of the world is nigh, what difference is a little cake gonna do....
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Post by eloneen on Mar 15, 2020 22:37:05 GMT
The end of the world is nigh, what difference is a little cake gonna do.... I'll defer to BSJ for the answer to that question... 
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Post by Timeblue on Mar 15, 2020 22:40:41 GMT
Let me finish the Johnny Walker first....  |
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Post by eloneen on Mar 15, 2020 22:45:46 GMT
The end of the world is nigh, what difference is a little cake gonna do.... On a serious note, I don't think panic is in order, but a real sense of solidarity and sobriety (no pun intended) in this critical moment. This is a real test of character and commitment to the public good. In recent years, we have not been tested in the ways that people in previous times/generations have been tested. Particularly in the developed world, we have been spared for a long time many of the widespread, severe, hardships and large scale tragedies that people in other places in the world often live with. This is frightening, but we are stronger than we know (because we have not been forced for the most part by our circumstances to be so strong), and trials like this can bring out the best in us if we find the courage to look for the best in ourselves and encourage others to do likewise.
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Post by BSJ on Mar 15, 2020 22:49:54 GMT
The end of the world is nigh, what difference is a little cake gonna do.... I'll defer to BSJ for the answer to that question... Dr BSJ says, Why not? What the heck. A little poison cake just might punch that old virus out!  (not to mention all those shots in memory of our dear Muk.  )
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Post by Timeblue on Mar 15, 2020 22:52:29 GMT
The end of the world is nigh, what difference is a little cake gonna do.... On a serious note, I don't think panic is in order, but a real sense of solidarity and sobriety (no pun intended) in this critical moment. This is a real test of character and commitment to the public good. In recent years, we have not been tested in the ways that people in previous times/generations have been tested. Particularly in the developed world, we have been spared for a long time many of the widespread, severe, hardships and large scale tragedies that people in other places in the world often live with. This is frightening, but we are stronger than we know (because we have not been forced for the most part by our circumstances to be so strong), and trials like this can bring out the best in us if we find the courage to look for the best in ourselves and encourage others to do likewise. I was being a little flippant there, as you say this is unprecedented but we will see this through. I'd still like to know how it originated though, this hasn't been well documented and personally I feel we are not being given the full facts...
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Post by Timeblue on Mar 15, 2020 22:54:17 GMT
I'll defer to BSJ for the answer to that question... Dr BSJ says, Why not? What the heck. A little poison cake just might punch that old virus out! (not to mention all those shots in memory of our dear Muk. ) Poison or not,after a few JW's...who cares?
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, but we're OK. 
Sept 28, 2024 17:32:11 GMT
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Oct 11, 2024 17:14:20 GMT
Apparently it's quite hard to see them with the naked eye, you need to be looking through a camera or other type of lens?
Oct 12, 2024 20:17:04 GMT
Apparently it's quite hard to see them with the naked eye, you need to be looking through a camera or other type of lens?
Oct 12, 2024 20:17:04 GMT