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Post by trekkielo on Mar 17, 2024 18:22:24 GMT
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Post by dillwyn on Mar 17, 2024 20:06:23 GMT
Tim Routledge Lighting Design have also posted it... the monday advert I mean not the reedit track listing ... that must indicate live shows to me .... maybe it is called big horizon
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Post by janne on Mar 17, 2024 20:23:40 GMT
I'm sure there was some degree of betrayal when Jeff and Bev learned that Roy had left to form Wizzard, but any "bad blood" was likely orchestrated (pun intended) by Don Arden, as he would be in the position of managing both bands at the heart of a fabricated drama designed to ensure immediate media attention for the spin-off group. The problem now is that Roy has openly said he will never work with Bev again after the ill-fated 50th anniversary Move tour plans, while any peace between Jeff and Bev is likely a fragile one. Also, for all the talk of Roy being retired, he still shows up around Christmas every year (or should that be everyday?), and the last album I knew of was the formally announced American Jukebox cover project first mentioned back in 2014, which I suspect he was starting to hype up before it was even finished. One thing puzzling me about these hints of new JLELO activity is that most of Jeff's usual touring line-up has other commitments for much of this year, and I can't imagine they'd release an album now then hold back on a tour until next year, unless it's absolutely packed with the kind of singles capable of keeping Jeff in the spotlight that long. So, are we looking at a handful of promotional appearances sandwiched between other pre-scheduled dates, a new format altogether, or something else? The way labels work, they usually like around three months from announcement to release, which points to a summer launch window. In other words, festival season, perhaps? You're right, both tour and album seems unlikely. Maybe ELO will follow ABBA and become avatars?
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Post by ShardEnder on Mar 17, 2024 20:43:11 GMT
Well, if a tour is on the cards (and the signs are starting to point that way), it would cement Jeff's band as one of the hardest working groups in the business. Then again, it's always possible ELO could be sharing dates with Take That, 10cc or even Big Horizon to lighten the load.
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Post by galesgal on Mar 17, 2024 20:52:51 GMT
Take That have a break in their tour, no dates during August, September and part of October.
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Post by galesgal on Mar 17, 2024 20:57:06 GMT
10cc no dates in October only.
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Post by ShardEnder on Mar 17, 2024 21:11:32 GMT
So, an announcement for a mini-tour in October, perhaps a few dates between other commitments to keep us occupied until then, and the usual release window for an album? I could see that happening, plus it would make sense to have tickets available now.
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Post by lawrev on Mar 17, 2024 22:27:41 GMT
I'm sure there was some degree of betrayal when Jeff and Bev learned that Roy had left to form Wizzard, but any "bad blood" was likely orchestrated (pun intended) by Don Arden, as he would be in the position of managing both bands at the heart of a fabricated drama designed to ensure immediate media attention for the spin-off group. The problem now is that Roy has openly said he will never work with Bev again after the ill-fated 50th anniversary Move tour plans, while any peace between Jeff and Bev is likely a fragile one. Also, for all the talk of Roy being retired, he still shows up around Christmas every year (or should that be everyday?), and the last album I knew of was the formally announced American Jukebox cover project first mentioned back in 2014, which I suspect he was starting to hype up before it was even finished. One thing puzzling me about these hints of new JLELO activity is that most of Jeff's usual touring line-up has other commitments for much of this year, and I can't imagine they'd release an album now then hold back on a tour until next year, unless it's absolutely packed with the kind of singles capable of keeping Jeff in the spotlight that long. So, are we looking at a handful of promotional appearances sandwiched between other pre-scheduled dates, a new format altogether, or something else? The way labels work, they usually like around three months from announcement to release, which points to a summer launch window. In other words, festival season, perhaps? Leaving Bev off to the side, why hasn't Jeff and Roy released any collaborative activity since Roy left ELO? They get along, no issues there.
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Post by trekkielo on Mar 17, 2024 23:30:11 GMT
However, I've read somewhere that track 9 "Chat" as a possible working title was registered to Jeff Lynne.
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Post by Chippa on Mar 18, 2024 0:23:22 GMT
I'm sure there was some degree of betrayal when Jeff and Bev learned that Roy had left to form Wizzard, but any "bad blood" was likely orchestrated (pun intended) by Don Arden, as he would be in the position of managing both bands at the heart of a fabricated drama designed to ensure immediate media attention for the spin-off group. The problem now is that Roy has openly said he will never work with Bev again after the ill-fated 50th anniversary Move tour plans, while any peace between Jeff and Bev is likely a fragile one. Also, for all the talk of Roy being retired, he still shows up around Christmas every year (or should that be everyday?), and the last album I knew of was the formally announced American Jukebox cover project first mentioned back in 2014, which I suspect he was starting to hype up before it was even finished. One thing puzzling me about these hints of new JLELO activity is that most of Jeff's usual touring line-up has other commitments for much of this year, and I can't imagine they'd release an album now then hold back on a tour until next year, unless it's absolutely packed with the kind of singles capable of keeping Jeff in the spotlight that long. So, are we looking at a handful of promotional appearances sandwiched between other pre-scheduled dates, a new format altogether, or something else? The way labels work, they usually like around three months from announcement to release, which points to a summer launch window. In other words, festival season, perhaps? Leaving Bev off to the side, why hasn't Jeff and Roy released any collaborative activity since Roy left ELO? They get along, no issues there. They worked on some songs in 1989, but nothing was ever officially released. There are two bootlegs, though.
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Post by trekkielo on Mar 18, 2024 0:42:57 GMT
I'm sure there was some degree of betrayal when Jeff and Bev learned that Roy had left to form Wizzard, but any "bad blood" was likely orchestrated (pun intended) by Don Arden, as he would be in the position of managing both bands at the heart of a fabricated drama designed to ensure immediate media attention for the spin-off group. The problem now is that Roy has openly said he will never work with Bev again after the ill-fated 50th anniversary Move tour plans, while any peace between Jeff and Bev is likely a fragile one. Also, for all the talk of Roy being retired, he still shows up around Christmas every year (or should that be everyday?), and the last album I knew of was the formally announced American Jukebox cover project first mentioned back in 2014, which I suspect he was starting to hype up before it was even finished. One thing puzzling me about these hints of new JLELO activity is that most of Jeff's usual touring line-up has other commitments for much of this year, and I can't imagine they'd release an album now then hold back on a tour until next year, unless it's absolutely packed with the kind of singles capable of keeping Jeff in the spotlight that long. So, are we looking at a handful of promotional appearances sandwiched between other pre-scheduled dates, a new format altogether, or something else? The way labels work, they usually like around three months from announcement to release, which points to a summer launch window. In other words, festival season, perhaps? Leaving Bev off to the side, why hasn't Jeff and Roy released any collaborative activity since Roy left ELO? They get along, no issues there. www.jefflynnesongs.com/popup.php?data=MeAndYou198936_popupplusJeff Lynne & Roy Wood - Me And You [Unreleased Studio Recording] Details "Oh yeah, there are the two I did with Jeff as well. One is called Me And You, and the other one's called, er... If You Can't Get What You Want, You've Gotta Want What You Get! Well, it's mainly me, but Jeff does a bit as well. I had the skeleton for Me And You. I took it over to Jeff's house, and played it to him, and he added some bits of his own to it as well." Roy Wood (1993 - Face The Music fanzine #16) "At the end of the year [1989], Jeff and Roy Wood were working together again. Roy went over to Jeff's house and they recorded together Me And You and If You Don't Get What You Want for a projected single which should come out in the future. [...] Both, Me And You and If You Can't Get What You Want haven't been released as yet. 'Well, it's mainly me, but Jeff does a bit as well. We wrote them together. I had the skeleton of Me And You, I took it over to Jeff's house, and played it to him, and he added some bits of his own to it as well. We did that...' (Roy 1993)" Patrik Guttenbacher, Marc Haines, & Alexander von Petersdorff (1996 - Unexpected Messages) "At the time I was staying at his house socially and we were just messing around. I played him this idea for a song that I'd had which eventually ended up as a song called Me And You. I played him the tune for the verse and all that. He said, 'Well, I'll throw a few bits in.' And we ended up writing it together and recording it. It turned out well. He also had a guy staying with him named Richard Dodd who recorded the Traveling Wilburys and he's a great engineer. It turned out well and we stayed up one night and wrote another song that we thought we could do as a single and stick it on the B-side. It was called Get What You Want. Me And You is an out-and-out pop song and Get What You Want sounds like an old skiffle number." Roy Wood (August 1994 - Record Collector liner notes) "At the time I was staying at [Jeff Lynne's] house socially and we were just messing around, really. I played him this idea for a song that I'd had, which eventually ended up as a song called Me And You. I played him the tune for the verse and all that. He said, 'Well, I'll throw a few bits in.' And we ended up writing it together and recording it. It turned out well." Roy Wood (September 30, 1994 - Roy Wood: The Wizzard of Rock article in Goldmine) "Two others were the fruits of a session in 1989 with Jeff Lynne, when he went to stay at the latter's house. Me And You which he described at 'an out-and-out pop song', and If You Can't Get What You Want, You Gotta Want What You Get, a skiffle number, were both numbers which developed from ideas thrown in from each of them. 'I had the skeleton for Me And You. I took it over to Jeff's house, and played it to him, and he added some bits of his own to it as well. We did that, and whilst I was there, we stayed up all night and played a bit of skiffle, and this is how the other one came about.' With the exception of those two short throwaway track at the end of the third and fourth Move albums, it was the first time that both had collaborated as songwriters. Their finished efforts were duly recorded-- but frustratingly both remained in the can." John Van Der Kiste (December 8, 2014 - Roy Wood: The Move, Wizzard and Beyond) "Around this time there was a short if less productive musical reunion with Roy Wood. He and Jeff wrote and recorded two new tracks from scratch: Me And You, which they called an out-and-out pop song , and If You Can't Get What You Want, You've Gotta Want What You Get, a skiffle number which would not have sounded out of place on the Wilburys album. Roy had the basic outline for the first track, took it over to Jeff s house, played it to him, 'and he added some bits of his own to it as well. We did that, and whilst I was there, we stayed up all night and played a bit of skiffle, and this is how the other one came about.' With the exception of two short throwaway tracks at the end of the third and fourth Move albums, it was the first time that they had collaborated as songwriters. Although their finished efforts were recorded and mixed, they have so far remained in the can." John Van der Kiste (August 2015 - Jeff Lynne: Electric Light Orchestra - Before and After) Running Time: 3:27 (approximate)Record Date: 1989 Record Location: Unknown Written By: Jeff Lynne and/or Roy Wood Produced By: Jeff Lynne & Roy Wood Engineered By: Richard Dodd Performed By: Jeff Lynne (lead vocals, guitar), Roy Wood (lead vocals, guitar), other instruments and musicians unknown Released On: Unreleased (bootlegged)
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Post by bhabs on Mar 18, 2024 3:46:48 GMT
Hehehe this was me 😎 Can confirm that it’s a joke. “Chat is this real?” Is a joke-y phrase used online lately to ironically ask if something being presented is legitimate or not. I whipped up this whole thing within 10 minutes of Friday’s cryptic Instagram post. Thought I’d have a bit of fun leading up to Monday’s announcement.
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Post by lawrev on Mar 18, 2024 5:05:35 GMT
The first bootleg sounds like a mix of Dave Edmunds sound and the Wilburys sound. While not "in place" on any Jeff Lynne release since 1989, they could have been finalized in the 35 years since and added as bonus tracks to a release. But as it stands they remain as bootlegs, not official releases.
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Post by ShardEnder on Mar 18, 2024 6:22:35 GMT
Well, I guess that "confirms" the tracklist. XD
As for that '89 collaboration with Jeff, those two songs very nearly ended up on a career-spanning 2CD comp a few years back that would have compiled all Roy's singles and at least three other previously unreleased tracks. Of these, a version of Honeycomb recorded with The Beach Boys during a session in late October '74 remains something of a holy grail, though the other two are floating around.
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