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Post by Timeblue on Jul 25, 2023 18:33:51 GMT
Just looked, it wasn't the cast singing it.
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Post by BSJ on Jul 25, 2023 18:36:58 GMT
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Post by jackpunch on Jul 30, 2023 13:53:18 GMT
I've just dropped him a message on eBay to ask if it's still available. Says he's withdrawn it as he was told the signatures arent real.... Says it was a genuine error as he's blind.
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Post by BSJ on Jul 31, 2023 16:18:09 GMT
Really? He says he's blind? Well, God love him.
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Post by Timeblue on Jul 31, 2023 19:34:35 GMT
How can you know if things that you sell are legit if you are blind?
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Post by BSJ on Aug 1, 2023 16:24:43 GMT
BINGO!
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Post by jackpunch on Aug 1, 2023 22:17:06 GMT
How can you know if things that you sell are legit if you are blind? Indeed. He should probably have a disclaimer on his eBay site... It's difficult not to be cynical and think he's probably just spinning a yarn
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Post by Timeblue on Aug 2, 2023 6:17:51 GMT
That was my immediate thought too.
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Post by Mattster-Vinyl on Aug 14, 2023 20:29:58 GMT
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Post by Chippa on Aug 14, 2023 23:54:41 GMT
Looks legit on the surface, but I'm no expert.
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Post by Timeblue on Aug 15, 2023 6:24:54 GMT
It LOOKS legit to me, the only doubt I have is the low price. Jeff's signature commands a fairly high price these days so I'd have expected a higher starting bid.
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Post by Horacewimp on Aug 15, 2023 6:56:38 GMT
First impressions are that it looks good.
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Post by nickheynes on Aug 15, 2023 11:10:42 GMT
It LOOKS legit to me, the only doubt I have is the low price. Jeff's signature commands a fairly high price these days so I'd have expected a higher starting bid. That was my thinking too Although if it also finishes low and is genuine that it'd be a bargin . Sort of tempted to throw a bid in myself
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Post by soonerorlater on Aug 16, 2023 14:17:36 GMT
I would be a bit more cautious with this one, in fact I'd pass it by.
Looking at it logically, when would Jeff, Bev, Richard and Kelly all have been in the same place at the same time to sign evenly spaced signatures around a vinyl record with the same pen? It couldn't really have been any later than what, 1982, 1983? How many times have you seen a set of signatures on the grooves of a vinyl disc from that era or before? In short, rarely if ever and that's because it's a more recent idea that makes autograph hunters uneasy. For me, the signatures are a little off, particularly the loops on Bev's and the seller will tell you it's because vinyl grooves are an uneven surface. And that's the point - there's a lot of questionable signed record surfaces on ebay because the grooves are used to explain anomalies, it's a bit like signing a sheet of sandpaper!
This may well be genuine (the seller has a clean ebay record) but why didn't the band sign the plain sleeve or, at a pinch, the label? Why aren't there finger prints all over it too? It can't be easy signing anything without holding on to it!
I don't blame anyone for having a go at the auction but it is suspiciously cheap. Have you seen how much you have to pay for one of the Genesis Publication books signed by just Jeff these days?
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Post by Timeblue on Aug 16, 2023 14:50:05 GMT
I would be a bit more cautious with this one, in fact I'd pass it by. Looking at it logically, when would Jeff, Bev, Richard and Kelly all have been in the same place at the same time to sign evenly spaced signatures around a vinyl record with the same pen? It couldn't really have been any later than what, 1982, 1983? How many times have you seen a set of signatures on the grooves of a vinyl disc from that era or before? In short, rarely if ever and that's because it's a more recent idea that makes autograph hunters uneasy. For me, the signatures are a little off, particularly the loops on Bev's and the seller will tell you it's because vinyl grooves are an uneven surface. And that's the point - there's a lot of questionable signed record surfaces on ebay because the grooves are used to explain anomalies, it's a bit like signing a sheet of sandpaper! This may well be genuine (the seller has a clean ebay record) but why didn't the band sign the plain sleeve or, at a pinch, the label? Why aren't there finger prints all over it too? It can't be easy signing anything without holding on to it! I don't blame anyone for having a go at the auction but it is suspiciously cheap. Have you seen how much you have to pay for one of the Genesis Publication books signed by just Jeff these days? No way would a seller put on a genuine Jeff signature for just a £1.99 starting bid, and if you did then you would make sure his name was included in the title of the auction,not just 'ELO'.
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