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Post by Timeblue on Oct 5, 2021 15:47:05 GMT
If you're going to celebrate all of these anniversaries while you skipped over Time's 40th, at least use the audio for Electric Light Orchestra's Livin' Thing from 1976, not Jeff Lynne solo in 2012! Whilst the casual fan may not pick up on this, the more ardent fans will, and Jeff is risking alienating these die hards with his petulant nature of rewriting ELO's history....
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Post by lasttrain929 on Oct 5, 2021 18:00:03 GMT
I have no problem with all the anniversary posts and tweets for ELOs past history, enjoy them, but can’t come up with any reason why Time is over looked. On the plus side it’s got me playing my Time expanded CD, when I’m on the treadmill....
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Post by cg on Oct 5, 2021 18:20:24 GMT
Not bad, but it's also not quite complete, either. The actual full version - sourced from an acetate dated 9-18-1974 - opens with a bit of nonsense from Jeff and doesn't fade out. Instead, it descends into a cacophony of him blowing raspberries and singing a drawn-out expletive. (Think one of the early working titles for Ma-Ma-Ma Belle...) speaking of drawn-out expletives... when i partied with the band in 1981 they told be about the "crowd noise" at the beginning of ALL OVER THE WORLD. All I can say it they were being "boys" and ONJ was the object of their "affection". of course now, being so politically incorrect, they would never repeat what they told me they were saying. And they made sure whatever they were saying was buried in the mix.
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Post by Timeblue on Oct 5, 2021 19:17:08 GMT
I have no problem with all the anniversary posts and tweets for ELOs past history, enjoy them, but can’t come up with any reason why Time is over looked. On the plus side it’s got me playing my Time expanded CD, when I’m on the treadmill.... I have no problem with the tweets too, apart from when Jeff pushes the JLELO thing as in the last post celebrating Livin' Thing 45th anniversary when it was clearly the 'new' version which ISN'T 45 years old...
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Post by Timeblue on Oct 5, 2021 19:24:28 GMT
Not bad, but it's also not quite complete, either. The actual full version - sourced from an acetate dated 9-18-1974 - opens with a bit of nonsense from Jeff and doesn't fade out. Instead, it descends into a cacophony of him blowing raspberries and singing a drawn-out expletive. (Think one of the early working titles for Ma-Ma-Ma Belle...) speaking of drawn-out expletives... when i partied with the band in 1981 they told be about the "crowd noise" at the beginning of ALL OVER THE WORLD. All I can say it they were being "boys" and ONJ was the object of their "affection". of course now, being so politically incorrect, they would never repeat what they told me they were saying. And they made sure whatever they were saying was buried in the mix. Wow,what a story! so how did you get into that situation where you were partying with the band? I wonder if there is an original 'mix' where what they originally said is audible? haha...
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Post by lasttrain929 on Oct 5, 2021 21:12:15 GMT
I have no problem with all the anniversary posts and tweets for ELOs past history, enjoy them, but can’t come up with any reason why Time is over looked. On the plus side it’s got me playing my Time expanded CD, when I’m on the treadmill.... I have no problem with the tweets too, apart from when Jeff pushes the JLELO thing as in the last post celebrating Livin' Thing 45th anniversary when it was clearly the 'new' version which ISN'T 45 years old... Yes it’s a shame it’s not the original, maybe be some originals used for future anniversaries that haven’t been re recorded, unless we get Mr Blue Sky the very best of vol 2.....
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Post by ShardEnder on Oct 6, 2021 6:32:53 GMT
MBS Volume 2, huh? Funny you should mention that... {Not in any particular order:} Ma-Ma-Ma Belle Tightrope Rockaria! Sweet Talkin' Woman Steppin' Out Standin' In The Rain Mr. Blue Sky (full-length version) Wild West Hero Shine A Little Love Last Train To London I'm Alive Don't Walk Away All Over The World Twilight Secret Messages Rock 'N' Roll Is King
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Post by Timeblue on Oct 6, 2021 11:46:23 GMT
I'll give that one a miss then.....
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Post by lasttrain929 on Oct 6, 2021 16:30:23 GMT
I'll give that one a miss then..... I didn’t expect that news from shardender.
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Post by lasttrain929 on Oct 6, 2021 16:36:01 GMT
MBS Volume 2, huh? Funny you should mention that... {Not in any particular order:} Ma-Ma-Ma Belle Tightrope Rockaria! Sweet Talkin' Woman Steppin' Out Standin' In The Rain Mr. Blue Sky (full-length version) Wild West Hero Shine A Little Love Last Train To London I'm Alive Don't Walk Away All Over The World Twilight Secret Messages Rock 'N' Roll Is King Just curious but is there any hint of previously unreleased material, like Point of no return, .as on Vol one
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Post by trekkielo on Oct 6, 2021 17:49:34 GMT
It's October and 2021 is drawing to a rapid close. I thought I'd revisit the original statement made by Team Jeff in February of this year, just to make sure that I haven't misunderstood their original intentions for the year. It reads as follows: 2021 marks 50 years of ELO. We’ve been all over the world and have so many incredible memories to look back on, and more to create! Throughout the year, we will be sharing special 50th anniversary surprises with you. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter & Facebook @jefflynneselo to see what we have in store!So.... 2021 does indeed mark 50 years of ELO. It wasn't 2020 and it's not going to be 2022 - that's very clear, in fact it's the only moment of clarity that we've had. Where are the "special 50th anniversary surprises"? Do the random and sporadic references to the anniversaries of this song or that album (while of course completely ignoring others) count as surprises? I think not. What about the 'fan memories' interaction? To date it's been a very short series of clips featuring American-men-of-a-certain-age (absolutely no offence towards them intended, they were chosen by the site hosts) talking about how they met their wife/best friend/gave everything to their daughter because of ELO and, it's already become predictable and stale. In fact 'stale' is the word to describe the state of ELO's 50th anniversary year, particularly when you consider: - The above represents all that has happened, i.e. virtually nothing
- The News section of Jeff Lynne's ELO website has just two entries for the entire year - the above announcement early in the year and, a plug for the Wembley book that a) many of us already have and b) has also been pushed back a number of times. That's all
- The 50th Anniversary merchandise has been found (by some) to be defective. Posts about this on the Showdown website were quickly removed but it's out there if you want to see how the patterns have practically worn off already! Symbolic perhaps?
- The FTM website has disappeared and it's been too long to simply blame technical problems, surely?
- The JLELO Facebook page is reduced to hundreds of comments about what a great song the chosen anniversary song is and when are you coming to Australia? It has no substance any more whatsoever - or is that just Facebook in general?
Phew, got that off my chest! I feel so bitterly disappointed in what should have been a glorious year of celebration. All the ground made by two new albums and several years of touring seems to be slipping away and no-one outside this forum seems to care. That's heartbreaking to see, particularly as I continue to spend money on the many box sets and archive releases (many of them also 50th anniversary releases) that other artists with labels who care are putting out there.
In a sense I feel disloyal for being so critical. I've followed this band for four years shy of the whole fifty. But, it's that statement that they put out (above) that got this ball rolling and sadly, the ball has barely moved an inch.
Perfect post! Except... Now back to Jeff Lynne's damn book about a 2017 concert that I'd never attended, so I don't give a shit about it and don't own one or ever plan to, enough already! Out of the Blue Tour Live at Wembley '78 spaceship along with its DVD from 2006 are both much more memorable as first seen by me on HBO in The 1980's. Big Time Electric Light Orchestra 1972-2001 only fan since 1981!
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Post by lawrev on Oct 7, 2021 13:25:23 GMT
It's October and 2021 is drawing to a rapid close. I thought I'd revisit the original statement made by Team Jeff in February of this year, just to make sure that I haven't misunderstood their original intentions for the year. It reads as follows: 2021 marks 50 years of ELO. We’ve been all over the world and have so many incredible memories to look back on, and more to create! Throughout the year, we will be sharing special 50th anniversary surprises with you. Follow us on Instagram, Twitter & Facebook @jefflynneselo to see what we have in store!So.... 2021 does indeed mark 50 years of ELO. It wasn't 2020 and it's not going to be 2022 - that's very clear, in fact it's the only moment of clarity that we've had. Where are the "special 50th anniversary surprises"? Do the random and sporadic references to the anniversaries of this song or that album (while of course completely ignoring others) count as surprises? I think not. What about the 'fan memories' interaction? To date it's been a very short series of clips featuring American-men-of-a-certain-age (absolutely no offence towards them intended, they were chosen by the site hosts) talking about how they met their wife/best friend/gave everything to their daughter because of ELO and, it's already become predictable and stale. In fact 'stale' is the word to describe the state of ELO's 50th anniversary year, particularly when you consider: - The above represents all that has happened, i.e. virtually nothing
- The News section of Jeff Lynne's ELO website has just two entries for the entire year - the above announcement early in the year and, a plug for the Wembley book that a) many of us already have and b) has also been pushed back a number of times. That's all
- The 50th Anniversary merchandise has been found (by some) to be defective. Posts about this on the Showdown website were quickly removed but it's out there if you want to see how the patterns have practically worn off already! Symbolic perhaps?
- The FTM website has disappeared and it's been too long to simply blame technical problems, surely?
- The JLELO Facebook page is reduced to hundreds of comments about what a great song the chosen anniversary song is and when are you coming to Australia? It has no substance any more whatsoever - or is that just Facebook in general?
Phew, got that off my chest! I feel so bitterly disappointed in what should have been a glorious year of celebration. All the ground made by two new albums and several years of touring seems to be slipping away and no-one outside this forum seems to care. That's heartbreaking to see, particularly as I continue to spend money on the many box sets and archive releases (many of them also 50th anniversary releases) that other artists with labels who care are putting out there.
In a sense I feel disloyal for being so critical. I've followed this band for four years shy of the whole fifty. But, it's that statement that they put out (above) that got this ball rolling and sadly, the ball has barely moved an inch.
Perfect post! Except... Now back to Jeff Lynne's damn book about a 2017 concert that I'd never attended, so I don't give a shit about it and don't own one or ever plan to, enough already! I was at Wembley, but I am now tired of seeing it. Enough already! Out of the Blue Tour Live at Wembley '78 spaceship along with its DVD from 2006 are both much more memorable as first seen by me on HBO in The 1980's. Big Time Electric Light Orchestra 1972-2001 only fan since 1981!
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Post by lawrev on Oct 7, 2021 13:47:18 GMT
ELO's 50th anniversary "campaign" needs a Don Arden - like figure to kick some bu**s and stick to deadlines. As it stands, nothing is set in stone, and in the meantime I am spending my hard earned American dollars on other legacy acts.
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Post by Timeblue on Oct 7, 2021 15:59:55 GMT
ELO's 50th anniversary "campaign" needs a Don Arden - like figure to kick some bu**s and stick to deadlines. As it stands, nothing is set in stone, and in the meantime I am spending my hard earned American dollars on other legacy acts. Acts that look after their fans.....
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Post by Timeblue on Oct 7, 2021 16:07:03 GMT
ELO's 50th anniversary "campaign" needs a Don Arden - like figure to kick some bu**s and stick to deadlines. As it stands, nothing is set in stone, and in the meantime I am spending my hard earned American dollars on other legacy acts. It's no coincidence that ELO's fortunes began to diminish when they parted company with Don....
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