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Post by Helmut83 on Jun 4, 2016 17:53:13 GMT
Wow! Hats off to you, Mrs. Collectionist! You are the living encyclopedia of ELO's collectible articles. Thanks for the data. I suspected it had to be from the old times and quite a valuable item but it's good to have the exact information.
And thanks to Queenofthehours for having gifted me such a nifty present.
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Post by BSJ on Jun 4, 2016 18:02:47 GMT
Oh, forgot. The second pin does not have "Made In England" on the back
Thank you, Helmut.
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Post by queenofthehours on Jun 6, 2016 21:12:34 GMT
Next was yet another first time thing for me, as we took the tram to Sheffield Wednesday's stadium (I had never traveled by that means of transport). ... We walked around the nearby Hillsborough Park, then took the tram to a University (help me with it's name, Queen), then to the beautiful Weston Park where we sat on a bench and then to a very interesting museum which had the particularity of jumping from one subject to another one completely unrelated in the next room. That was your first time on a tram? You must visit Blackpool when you visit us again. The town and it's trams are inseparable. It was the University of Sheffield. The other university that was near the station was the Hallam University. The polar bear at the museum. Doesn't she look like she's dancing some sort of Hawaian rhythm?... During what in my opinion was the afternoon -or evening at worst- a recurrent subject arose, and the interchange normally went along these lines: QOTH: " ...but now at night it's closed". Me: " Night? How is this night? Look at the sunlight you've got!". QOTH: " It's night anyway, it's 17:30". Me: " Exactly! That's mid-afternoon! Particularly with this amount of light" QOTH: " No, it's nighttime". This deeply philosophical discussion re-ignited each time there was a mention of the current time of the day or a shop being closed, and despite all of the debate we didn't get to any major conclusion (not one we agreed about at least). Yes, the bear does look as if it's swaying to a tune. I can imagine it wearing a grass skirt like Baloo in the Jungle Book. In the Sheffield area, or at least where I live, days are separated into "day" and "night". Day is when you go to work, night is when you leave work after 5pm or when the shops close. If you use the word "evening" you are a little bit more upper crust and will probably be going "out for the evening" whereas lesser mortals will be "having a night out" . I don't remember what this beautiful building was I believe that building is the town hall. Had we more time you would have seen Sheffield's very own walk of fame in front of it. Here are some of the honoured people en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheffield_Legends . We were as excited about finding this as if we had found the Holy GrailChesterfield Cathedral's needle got deformed due to a failure on it's construction but instead of fixing it they left it like that, making it a particular feature of the church and the city It was as if Jeff had ordered that advertisement to be placed just there for us!
Construction might be the truth as to why the spire is twisted but "One well established legend goes that a virgin once married in the church, and the church was so surprised that the spire turned around to look at the bride, and continues that if another virgin marries in the church, the spire will return to true again. Several local legends hold that the Devil was responsible. In one tale, a Bolsover blacksmith mis-shoed the Devil, who leaped over the spire in pain, knocking it out of shape. A similar story has the Devil causing mischief in Chesterfield, seating himself on the spire and wrapping his tail around it. The people of the town rang the church bells and the Devil, frightened by the clamour, tried to jump away with his tail still wound about the spire, causing it to twist."
I got quite teary eyed and emotional at your final summing up, Helmut83. It makes me honoured to be an ELO fan and very honoured to have met you and been able to help make your trip a happy one.
I'm glad to know you appreciate the yummy delicacy that is mini battenburgs!
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Post by vlogdance on Jun 6, 2016 21:54:38 GMT
In the Sheffield area, or at least where I live, days are separated into "day" and "night". Day is when you go to work, night is when you leave work after 5pm or when the shops close. If you use the word "evening" you are a little bit more upper crust and will probably be going "out for the evening" whereas lesser mortals will be "having a night out" . It's true, when Jeff was writing "When The Night Comes", the song's working title was "It's Just Gone Five O'Clock In Sheffield".
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Post by Helmut83 on Jun 6, 2016 23:42:16 GMT
That was your first time on a tram? Yes. I had seen them on the city of Mendoza (in the west of Argentina) but never had taken one. Cornwall, Norfolk, the Isle of Wight, Brighton, the North of Wales, Aberdeen, now Blackpool... so many places to visit, I need another Jeff tour (and money!). Thanks for filling in the missing data. Yes, the bear does look as if it's swaying to a tune. I can imagine it wearing a grass skirt like Baloo in the Jungle Book. Spot on, that was probably the idea that was subconsciously playing in my mind when I saw that photo. You got it exactly. OK about she shops closing time being the defining factor for night and day at the Sheffield area. Still I'm not fully convinced, I'll keep on arguing that people on that area are getting it wrong if they call "night" a time with such a big amount of daylight. Hey, after so much discussion were you expecting me to just give up like that? Wow, I didn't know Gordon Banks was from Sheffield, otherwise I would have asked you for a photo with his star (or whatever it is that they have on the walk of fame). His save against Pele in Mexico '70 is probably the most legendary save any keeper around the world has ever made. One well established legend goes that a virgin once married in the church, and the church was so surprised that the spire turned around to look at the bride, and continues that if another virgin marries in the church, the spire will return to true again. So not a single virgin got married there in decades!? I'm impressed by Chesterfield girls. I'm glad you liked the final summing-up about ELO fans! *high-fiving smiley* (given that it's not active any longer, I have to spell it)
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Post by queenofthehours on Jun 7, 2016 19:27:49 GMT
That was your first time on a tram? Yes. I had seen them on the city of Mendoza (in the west of Argentina) but never had taken one. Cornwall, Norfolk, the Isle of Wight, Brighton, the North of Wales, Aberdeen, now Blackpool... so many places to visit, I need another Jeff tour (and money!). For the true tram connoisseur: www.tramway.co.uk/OK about she shops closing time being the defining factor for night and day at the Sheffield area. Still I'm not fully convinced, I'll keep on arguing that people on that area are getting it wrong if they call "night" a time with such a big amount of daylight. Hey, after so much discussion were you expecting me to just give up like that? Wow, I didn't know Gordon Banks was from Sheffield, otherwise I would have asked you for a photo with his star (or whatever it is that they have on the walk of fame). His save against Pele in Mexico '70 is probably the most legendary save any keeper around the world has ever made. All I can add to this night/day conundrum is that I'm aware from school Spanish lessons that Buenos dias is a greeting for daytime, Buenos tardes for afternoon and Buenos noches is only used just before sleep. I don't know what point I am making though!
Gordon Banks played for Chesterfield FC! it was his first senior team .
Here is his star www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3077769 .
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Post by unomusette on Jun 7, 2016 23:15:57 GMT
Fitting finale to a fabulous fable* Helmut83 ! *yes, I KNOW it's all true, not a fable, but it scans better. Lovely pics of you and queenofthehours, I'm surprised that snooker came as such a surprise to you though. Would you believe that years ago they used to show matches on the TV when there were only black and white pictures, how everyone figured out what was going on is a total mystery. Sniffling away at your tribute to us all, of course every word is true and it could only come from a member of such an illustrious, intelligent, good looking bunch as we ELO fans. We rule!
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Post by Helmut83 on Jun 7, 2016 23:29:15 GMT
Haha! Snooker games on black and white TV, that must have involved a lot of guessing by the viewers!
Glad you liked my summing-up as well, Uno. We are all that and then some. You British guys should organize a meeting some day, putting all of those ingredients (or forum members) into a mix I cannot see how the outcome could be other than a whole lot of ELO fun.
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Post by vlogdance on Jun 8, 2016 8:37:20 GMT
Haha! Snooker games on black and white TV, that must have involved a lot of guessing by the viewers! It's true, one snooker commentator once made the legendary remark: "He's going for the pink ball... and for those of you watching in black and white, the pink ball is next to the green." (This was the same commentator who memorably said: "99 times out of 1,000, he would have potted that ball." And "Griffiths has looked at the blue four times now, and it still hasn't moved.")
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Post by livinthing on Jun 8, 2016 16:29:14 GMT
helmut,You described to us a little while back how difficult it was to receive parcels etc in Argentina. Is it just as strict to bring things home with you from abroad?
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Post by Helmut83 on Jun 8, 2016 17:58:21 GMT
It's a lottery, livinthing . You may get lucky and they won't even check your bag at all or you may be unlucky enough to be checked and if they do then it's very likely that you could have trouble, because they are really good at finding excuses to make the simplest items sound like a real threat to national security, national industry or national whatever. When I came here my bags didn't get checked, and I was carrying Uno's bara brith and Welsh cakes, plus the cat food Vlog gifted me and a few articles obviously bought in Great Britain and Ireland. I've known lots of stories of fellow countrymen having trouble at the Argie customs when coming back with a simple few items that in other countries wouldn't have caused trouble. However, by bringing things with you you have a good chance of getting away with it, while receiving parcels means a 100% chance of having serious trouble, if being able at all to retrieve the goods from customs. That is expected to change soon with the new government though, they are much more reasonable people.
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Post by eloneen on Jan 21, 2018 11:39:14 GMT
Ahh, thank you for this glowing description of our day out, Helmut83 . Glad you enjoyed it. (The only thing I would question is... extrovert? Chatty, yes... but, er, no, I wouldn't say extrovert! According to Myers-Briggs, I'm INFP. Has anyone else done this test, by the way? What result did you get?) vlogdance I'm another chatty introvert! I've done the MB testing twice: INTJ one time and INTP the other. Both times the J/P scores were pretty close. I come from a family of pretty strong extroverts. Although they are lots of fun, it can be exhausting sometimes! Fortunately, I married another chatty introvert (although not exactly in the same way) and we understand each other pretty well!
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Post by Timeblue on Jan 21, 2018 11:52:15 GMT
'Chatty introvert'? Isn't that a contradiction of sorts? 😁
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Post by vlogdance on Jan 21, 2018 12:01:10 GMT
'Chatty introvert'? Isn't that a contradiction of sorts? 😁 It does sound strange, but some of us introverts can be very chatty around friends, in situations where we feel at ease.
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Post by eloneen on Jan 21, 2018 12:03:26 GMT
Timeblue One of the best ways to explain the introvert/extrovert distinction I've heard is this: Extroverts feel their psychological "battery" being charged when around groups of people in a social context. Introverts experience social events like this as an expenditure of energy, a drain on the battery. Eventually, the introvert has nothing left, whereas the extroverts can keep going. Introverts typically recharge their batteries by withdrawing from interactions with others and spending time alone, often doing solitary things they enjoy, like reading or listening to music. I enjoy interacting with people one to one, or in small groups, and sometimes even in larger groups, but for only so long. Hubby is more likely to initiate conversations with people, but he likes much more solitude than I do. We understand each other, which is the important thing!
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