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Feb 21, 2016 1:05:02 GMT
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Post by jackpunch on Feb 21, 2016 1:05:02 GMT
jackpunch , jackpunch... "Don't Walk Away" a masterpiece!!!? To me it's on par with Midnight Poo. BUT! If I had to pick one over the other, Midnight Poo would win. It bloody is. Its a brilliant song. Granted its not 21st century man, but i love it loads.
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Post by Helmut83 on Feb 21, 2016 1:12:39 GMT
The best one (and only good one IMO) of Xanadu.
Talking about mistakes...
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Post by ash2 on Feb 21, 2016 21:31:47 GMT
does the start of rockaria count ?
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Feb 21, 2016 21:38:42 GMT
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Post by jackpunch on Feb 21, 2016 21:38:42 GMT
does the start of rockaria count ? Well its defo a mistake ! I was after the hidden stuff though. I read a review recently that said the drumming in Evil Women is dreadful, but I never listen to it as I'm not really keen on it
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Post by unomusette on Feb 21, 2016 22:36:33 GMT
Somewhere in Jungle, in the middle instrumental I think, you can hear someone (probably Jeff) say "hang on" I think it's just before the singing comes back in on "Pretty soon I knew the tune..."
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Post by ShardEnder on Feb 22, 2016 2:53:44 GMT
At approximately 2:00 into Another Heart Breaks, you can hear Jeff (in the right channel) counting "eight" as a way of guiding Richard from a short piano section into a repeat of the main keyboard riff - he is then later heard far more clearly counting eight further bars.
On the same album, at around 1:21 during From The End Of The World, Jeff says something to Richard. I've been reliably informed this was a bit of studio chatter left in from them preparing to have their battle during the instrumental that follows. For those who don't know, Richard starts the call and response exchange with a bar on his Wurlitzer EP 200 before Jeff takes over on a guitar that sounds very much like his sparring partner's keyboard, the process cycling again before Richard goes for a solo, accompanied by Jeff playing an overdubbed line on the Yamaha CS80, using the very same preset that's all over the Xanadu material.
Going back to the early days, Roll Over Beethoven includes a rather jarring mistake at the beginning of the very last part. If you listen to the unedited take, it's clearly Jeff ad-libbing "come on, Ludwig!" In the final ELO II album and single edit, only the first syllable remains, the rest spliced out along with some of his other improvised vocals.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 7:31:29 GMT
Hmmm. I have listened to Turn To Stone about 100,000 times and I never noticed anything "wrong".
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Post by jackpunch on Feb 22, 2016 7:50:26 GMT
Hmmm. I have listened to Turn To Stone about 100,000 times and I never noticed anything "wrong". You have to listen quite closely to the drums and compare the rhythm from the second bar with what's played in the previous bar and throughout all of the previous choruses. It's perfectly in time, it's just not quite the 12/8 beat that has preceded it. If it was an intentional change to the rhythm it's very odd it only being played for one bar. I'll have another listen tonight when I get home and see if I can work out exactly what the difference between the two bars is.
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Post by dillwyn on Feb 22, 2016 13:23:34 GMT
Just hearing this once ...I'm in between meetings ....Isn't it just a drummers accent, a lot of these drums were double tracked so it would have been a real pain to duplicate if not intentional.
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Post by dillwyn on Feb 22, 2016 13:27:55 GMT
Or do you mean a missed cymbal crash at 2:40
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Post by Helmut83 on Feb 22, 2016 18:01:28 GMT
Are you a drummer, jackpunch? I assume it takes a drummer to notice such a subtlety.
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Feb 22, 2016 18:47:22 GMT
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Post by jackpunch on Feb 22, 2016 18:47:22 GMT
Are you a drummer, jackpunch? I assume it takes a drummer to notice such a subtlety. I'm not but I am a guitarist and a decent classically trained tuba player. I had a good listen on the way home. Its on the 2nd beat and it's either a missed snare or a badly sounded double tracked snare. Either way its sounded different. I'm wondering if its more audible on the version of the CD i have.
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Post by Helmut83 on Feb 22, 2016 18:53:41 GMT
It may be due to you having a well above average ear. It happens. Some people have better ear than others.
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Post by dillwyn on Feb 22, 2016 19:06:39 GMT
Ah a proper musician(different to play by ear chancers like me ) could be a dropping blip, tape splice error, although that would be an odd place to listening where we are in the song. He could have thought it was the chorus ...with no guide vocal, a counting error would be possible...he does hit the crash an unusual number( 6?) times from 2:41...that is going to bug me.
Of course it could be the boss playing with us and keeping it interesting.
I am slowly coming around the the Kate bush school of no cymbals as they splash high frequencies over everything
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Post by jackpunch on Feb 22, 2016 19:10:48 GMT
It may be due to you having a well above average ear. It happens. Some people have better ear than others. Well, me Dad's a deaf as a post, me Mam wasnt particularly great neither and two of my grandparents were deaf too. looks like me and me brother got the lugs. He's a great trumpet player
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