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Post by jrmugz on Dec 30, 2014 22:11:55 GMT
Both stunning George Harrison classics from the "Abbey Road" album.
I'm going to have to really think about if, though I have a feeling when the dust clears I will go with HCTS. Then again, ...
they're both very universal songs. They both touch on the very common basic human things.
HCTS focuses on our love of the sunshine and hope and happiness it gives, etc.
And "Something" concentrates on the the very deep and mysterious but very natural attraction that a male and a female might have for each other, etc.
It's a tough one for me, I'll really have to think about it, for my part.
How GH pulled off two such stunning classic masterpieces on one album is beyond me.
Jim
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Post by jefflynnenut on Dec 31, 2014 17:06:19 GMT
I have played both in my gigging life...."Here comes the sun" got an applause. ..."Something" made women cry.. (it was a wedding)! I hope it was thesong that made them cry and not my singing! Bahahaha!!! Soooo! Its gonna have to be "Something"
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Post by Helmut83 on Dec 31, 2014 17:12:28 GMT
These two songs are two masterpieces IMO, two 10/10. "Something", as Frank Sinatra used to say, may be one of the best love songs ever made (although he credited it to Lennon-McCartney), but my choice is "Here comes the sun", one of the most beautiful, positive, uplifting, magical songs I've ever heard.
I was going to tell you, JLN: when I sing, even the neighbours dogs cry, that's how much emotion I transmit with my music.
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Post by jefflynnenut on Dec 31, 2014 17:12:43 GMT
I'd also like to add a point. It nearly angers me at the lack of opportunities the George was given in the Beatles. He was a master songwriter and whilst he didn't have the most fantastic singing voice he was an exceptional guitar player, in his use of very unusual guitar chord structure and as a world class slide player. Maybe this is a biast opinion (as he was my favourite Beatle) but I think he was twice the musician than Paul and certainly less annoying. George was amazing! I bet if Jeff could honestly answer "who's your fave Beatle" I put my wage on Jeff picking George!
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Post by Helmut83 on Dec 31, 2014 17:21:33 GMT
I'd also like to add a point. It nearly angers me at the lack of opportunities the George was given in the Beatles. He was a master songwriter and whilst he didn't have the most fantastic singing voice he was an exceptional guitar player, in his use of very unusual guitar chord structure and as a world class slide player. Maybe this is a biast opinion (as he was my favourite Beatle) but I think he was twice the musician than Paul and certainly less annoying. George was amazing! I bet if Jeff could honestly answer "who's your fave Beatle" I put my wage on Jeff picking George! While George probably got mistreated by the Beatles and even George Martin (have in mind that he was 3 years younger than John and Ringo!), I think his musical maturity only came towards the end of the Beatles' era. His best songs were from the White Album on IMO, before that he was spending his time in Indian music and I can understand if the others weren't so enthusiastic about songs like "Within you, without you" or "Blue Jay way". It was only since 1968 that he developed to be a master songwriter, as shown by "All things must pass" and most things he did later. And if you asked me, out of the ex-Beatles he is the one with the solo output I like most (and by far), but to be fair with the Beatles and George Martin, I think that until the White Album, Lennon and McCartney were well over him in terms of songwriting. I'm also sure if Jeff could pick a favourite Beatle that would be George, no doubt.
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Post by Buttler on Dec 31, 2014 17:36:55 GMT
This one
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Post by BSJ on Dec 31, 2014 17:46:09 GMT
Sang them in my head for a few minutes (you are welcome Dave) and Something kept fighting through.
They are both fave's - might think different tomorrow on choice!
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Post by jrmugz on Dec 31, 2014 21:21:19 GMT
I'd also like to add a point. It nearly angers me at the lack of opportunities the George was given in the Beatles. He was a master songwriter and whilst he didn't have the most fantastic singing voice he was an exceptional guitar player, in his use of very unusual guitar chord structure and as a world class slide player. Maybe this is a biast opinion (as he was my favourite Beatle) but I think he was twice the musician than Paul and certainly less annoying. George was amazing! I bet if Jeff could honestly answer "who's your fave Beatle" I put my wage on Jeff picking George! While George probably got mistreated by the Beatles and even George Martin (have in mind that he was 3 years younger than John and Ringo!), I think his musical maturity only came towards the end of the Beatles' era. His best songs were from the White Album on IMO, before that he was spending his time in Indian music and I can understand if the others weren't so enthusiastic about songs like "Within you, without you" or "Blue Jay way". It was only since 1968 that he developed to be a master songwriter, as shown by "All things must pass" and most things he did later. And if you asked me, out of the ex-Beatles he is the one with the solo output I like most (and by far), but to be fair with the Beatles and George Martin, I think that until the White Album, Lennon and McCartney were well over him in terms of songwriting. I'm also sure if Jeff could pick a favourite Beatle that would be George, no doubt. I can a agree with the assessment that George's songwriting got better towards the end. Even with his "Taxman" contribution on the Revolver album, McCartney kinda stole some of the limelight with his monster guitar part, etc. "If I Needed Someone" was another great one. But if he had all these great songs that were being suppressed, more of them would have surfaced. I always maintained his singing was better than John's and he should have been used on the cover songs more. Compare George's vocals on "Roll Over Beethoven" vs. John's on "Rock and Roll Music", and to me, clearly Harrison had a much better voice for the cover songs. So to me, that is the area where he got the most unfairly suppressed. All that said, he was indeed able to shine as a great guitar player for most of The Beatles' stuff, so he was able to shine pretty good with them. Jim
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Post by jrmugz on Dec 31, 2014 21:24:15 GMT
I went with "Here Comes the Sun", there's gotta be a reason its the best-selling Beatles song on itunes! Jim
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Post by queenofthehours on Jan 2, 2015 12:43:44 GMT
I still find it amazing that these two fantastic songs - possibly even two of the best Beatles songs - are both on the same album.
I will have to go with 'Here Comes The Sun' - a perfectly joyful track, typical George. Great guitar. A track that is more "George" than "Beatles" - for a long time I thought it was a song from his solo years!
I'm sure I read that 'Something', despite everybody believing it was wrote for Pattie, was not. It was a biography about George himself that said the "she" in the song was originally going to be "he" - meaning God, to reflect George's beliefs. However, knowing George, if the "she" really was Pattie he could have been a little reluctant and embarrassed to admit the depth of his feeling so publicly and the God story would have been a good deflection.
Still, if you do try substituting the "she" for "he" the song holds up very well nonetheless.
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Post by Helmut83 on Jan 2, 2015 15:50:09 GMT
Could be, but thinking about something in the way God moves or God woos him sounds a bit strange all the same. Maybe he didn't want to admit it was Pattie after she left her for Clapton.
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Post by jrmugz on Jan 2, 2015 19:40:06 GMT
Could be, but thinking about something in the way God moves or God woos him sounds a bit strange all the same. Maybe he didn't want to admit it was Pattie after she left her for Clapton. I don't have trouble seeing how it could be spiritual, since I often feel what seems like being compelled by God, etc. Along the same lines as what QOTH says about "Something", one reason I really like "Here Comes the Sun" is that it reminds me of Jesus as in "Here Comes The Son of God", so to me that one has spiritual overtones as well. Jim
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