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Post by jrmugz on Jun 6, 2015 2:49:00 GMT
Well a bunch of thoughts going through my head, namely for my part, I have to be be interested and enjoying it to do it. I really like the treat of every Sunday seeing what the new CD will be. And I don't like making people wait a long time for their turn. I think we're all very excited to hear what each other likes, and we're also very excited to share stuff we like. So to me, having it once a week is the perfect balance. For my part, I really like the CDs I put up; but I certainly don't want to make someone have to hear it for two weeks. Just if they think wow I like this artist or this album, then it's up to them if they want to keep playing it. Usually someone gets the idea if the stuff is for them or if it's "meh" to them. But the common cord it seems to me is we're all music-lovers and very curious about bands we've always heard of and want to find out what they're about, or find about something new and exciting we never heard about before. We're music fanatics, we're the kind of people who could browse around in the CD store all day and never get bored, assuming you guys are like me.
If someone feels real strong another way, then that's fine. For my part what I would like to do and my vote is to just keep the format of once a week, and then as the year progresses, evaluate what might be a more ideal way next year. Maybe we'll be burnt out from it at the end of the year. Maybe as August approaches, I'll put up a vote with the button things, if we want August and forward to be 2 week CDs or keep the 1 week format, or any other option anyone wants to put up for vote.
I'll plan on putting it all up for a vote in mid-July. Anyone can make their cases or suggestions of how they would want it in the meantime, and like I say, they can all be up for vote in mid-July, and then we can proceed that way from August to the end of the year Christmas break.
Jim
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Post by Helmut83 on Jun 6, 2015 17:32:41 GMT
The timing to bring up this discussion couldn't have been worse, as the next day both Horacewimp and unomusette, two of the most active members of this section and whose opinions count lots, went on trips for a few days. I didn't know this, otherwise I would have waited till they were both back before throwing this idea. I see your points, Jim, you want to keep it dynamic and I find it very reasonable. You think that people could lose interest if much time goes by between the last CD they posted and the next one they'll be posting, and you could well be right. I don't think it will be my case: I only posted 2 CDs since the section began, which is far, far below average, and it would still be below average if they were 2-week CDs; yet here I am, still giving my reviews. But well, for other people it could work differently. My points -I want to state them clearly- are that 1) A CD is too big a product to be approached fairly in just one week; and 2) exploring new music shouldn't be felt as homework, which I think is a direct effect of the one-week time limit for some of us. In the meantime we could keep it as it is today, until something is decided. One possibility could be making a test to see how the proposed new format works. Maybe, starting at a certain point, make a whole round of 2-weeks CDs (this is, one CD per user till the 6-8 guys who participate on this section had posted one CD) and then evaluate the results to determine which way to go. I'm sure at that point, having experienced both formats, we will know better which one works better for us.
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Post by jrmugz on Jun 7, 2015 2:45:13 GMT
Yeah, maybe come August we'll have the two week format like I changed the first post date slots to the other day. But in the meantime, for the discussion, can we say that maybe having to play a CD for two weeks, might be like homework as well? I mean, The Ramones are pretty good, but for God's sake, two weeks of that? Everyone seemed to generally agree on that one, that is was very good, but not something to play all the time. Likewise, something like a Mark Heard CD I put, might be too blah for someone to want to play for two weeks. I liked it everyone else though it was blah, which is fine. So that's why I'm just saying we should respect that people not might want more than a general introduction. If something tickles their fancy, they can go ahead and play it all they want, buy the CD, etc. It's like if you're stuck in a car with someone, they should try to change up the music so nobody is over-bombarded with a style or artist that is not their cup of tea. What if every Sunday when you got the Sunday comics delivered to your house it was the same as the week before, and you had to wait two weeks to get a new comic section? Why should some people have to sometimes feel like "oh darn, I have to wait a whole extra week until seeing what the next one is?" Jim
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Post by Horacewimp on Jun 8, 2015 9:32:02 GMT
My motto is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" as far as I was aware having a CD every week was working just fine and there had being no reported issues.
I don't participate as much as I would like and hardly ever get a chance to post up a review but I do like picking a CD once in a while for other members to listen too and report back upon. There is a hard core of members who seem to appreciate the CD of the week section however there is a chance that after a time like anything the interest might wane and we can then look at stretching out the time period of the reviews.
Don't forget the threads aren't locked, they are only moved to the archive and so if someone is a little late with their review it will still get seen.
My vote would be to leave it as it is for now and see if the format starts getting tired in 6 months time or so, in saying this don't take it as a final decision as I am happy to listen to further comments and comply with the decision of the majority.
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Post by 88keys on Jun 9, 2015 5:02:21 GMT
jmugz seems way too upset by this. Hey I'll go with the flow. If you dudes want to to do every two weeks, so be it. I'm cool with anything.
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Post by jrmugz on Jun 9, 2015 16:48:19 GMT
It seems like if someone can go to the archives and review it late, and others are ready to move on to the next CD, why not just have the next CD each week?
Jim
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Post by Helmut83 on Jun 9, 2015 16:59:51 GMT
I'm waiting for unomusette 's opinion before saying anything else. She is one of the most active people on the section so I'd like to listen to her too.
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Post by unomusette on Jun 9, 2015 21:36:24 GMT
Evening all, sorry I'm late to the discussion. I can see where Helmut is coming from with the suggestion to stretch the time to two weeks, I'm nearly always one of the late ones so it would help me out. I don't think I'd play the CD for the whole time - I have trouble finding time to play them once usually. And just because there's more time there's no obligation to play it more often I'd say. But! Having read all the other comments I can also see that it suits some people pretty well to have a new CD every week so it's now quite hard to know which side to come down on. As Horace says, there haven't been any complaints yet. And although it does feel a bit like homework sometimes when there's a lot else going on, is there actually a deadline for reviews? You sort of feel you have to get each one in before the next CD is posted but if there's wriggle room with review dates that might relax things somewhat and take the pressure off. However, I'm the type of person that needs a deadline to make me come up with the goods, so if it becomes too easy I'll probably take too much advantage and STILL be the last one posting. So I'm not really much help here. I'm up for any experimental changes that happen, if it keeps the project going. And I'll support any majority decision that's made. Thanks for waiting for me, by the way, you're all the best!
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Post by Helmut83 on Jun 9, 2015 23:40:11 GMT
Well, now that we have Uno's opinion, I can give mine about what has been talked.
I came up with this idea about the two week CD because I thought many of us were struggling a bit with the one-week lapse -I thought it was a bit broken, Horace, that's why I had this idea about "fixing" it-. I asked for opinions and the waters were quite divided: there were a few who preferred one thing and a few who preferred the other, but what I had thought didn't finally reflect on the general opinion -at least not strongly-. Though most people were in the middle and would have welcome any of the 2 choices, apparently there isn't a majoritary need of change like I had inferred from other forumheads' comments and my own experiences.
So, as a conclussion, it appears that the correct choice is leaving it as it is today. Even if waters are divided, and even if a votation ended up in a tie, there has to be a clear, strong, general will of change in order to face a shift in the format, and there doesn't seem to be such thing. Plus Horace's opinion as the owner of the forum is an important one, and he wants to leave it like that. So, again, the right choice in my opinion seems to be leaving it as it is today, one CD por week.
Thanks a lot to all of you guys who posted your opinions; I think it was healthy to discuss things this way and, even if no changes are made, in any case it wasn't a time loss because it was useful to confirm that the actual format of the section is the right one for the majority of it's habitués.
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Post by jrmugz on Jun 10, 2015 2:56:20 GMT
Yeah, thanks for everyone's thoughts. I appreciated hearing everyone's take. I think part of the beauty of the archive section is nobody thinks twice about posting a late review, just look at what's happening with the Rory Gallagher in the last couple days, and it doesn't take the focus off the current one, we all know as the week winds down, people will start putting down their thoughts.
It was a worthwhile suggestion, and good to get everyone on the same page.
I guess then, maybe we can put the vote on hold, but seriously think about if we want to change it up to something other than "cd of the week" for next year. But if you guys are like me, and I think you are, there are probably no shortage of CDs that we have that we would love to share with everyone, and we're probably all geeked to hear others' favorite stuff too. From my perspective, it seems to be working out really well, we all seem to be enjoying it and getting a lot out of it. If someone gets to reviewing a CD three weeks late in the archive section, no problem. Sometimes it seems like it might be rude if a long thread on and on in the archive while the newest one is being ignored, but I think we all see how it works now, that everyone gets the feedback at the end of the week at least, etc.
Jim
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Post by Horacewimp on Jun 15, 2015 10:59:05 GMT
There was a discussion a few weeks back by Helmut83 regarding the posting of Youtube video links and the time they took to load. I noticed on Chippa's recent CD of the week he has posted the videos in a smaller window and I wondered if this helped in the speed of loading? If it does the way to do this is to select the "Insert Video" icon on the main create post screen, paste in the youtube link and with the drop down menu select "Size>Small" Hope this is of use.
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Post by jrmugz on Jun 15, 2015 14:36:26 GMT
OK maybe will give it a go next time it's my turn. Jim
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Post by PowWow on Aug 23, 2015 15:30:40 GMT
Is it okay if I do 25/10?
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Post by PowWow on Aug 24, 2015 15:20:02 GMT
pweatty pwease?
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Post by Horacewimp on Aug 24, 2015 15:32:41 GMT
Jim jrmugz, I've booked PowWow in for Oct 25th, hope thats ok.
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