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Post by Timeblue on Jul 23, 2020 0:37:51 GMT
It increasingly seems that Zoom was a one off, an album that didn't fit with the old guard of the 70s and 80s and has nothing to do with the current line up (save for Richard), No songs from this album are played in the current bands live shows and it continues to be a source of argument as to whether it is a bona fide 'ELO' album at all. I like the album for what it is, lots of good tunes an a half decent live show to go with it...
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Jul 23, 2020 2:04:58 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2020 2:04:58 GMT
I think Jeff seems to have abandoned it because it didn't sell well.
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Post by orangefiltersky on Jul 23, 2020 14:24:29 GMT
Well I bought "ZOOM" on day one in Zurich (Switzerland) where I worked at the time and spent day after day every free minute with it. I guess it was June 2001, right? I still love many of the tracks on this album: "Alright" is a good rocker with rather unusual lyrics (at least for JL) and such a brilliant ending. "Moment in Paradise" is a fine ballad (with 2/4 of The Beatles playing on it), "State Of Mind" is simply stunning and "Stranger On A Quiet Street" has another fantastic chorus, but it`s a bit of a shame that the song fades out too quickly. And "Easy Money" (also with Ringo Starr on drums) is another brilliant rocker with one of those typical E.L.O. choruses (i.e. fat vocal harmonies, which I love). Jeff should revisit the album with an open mind and include the best 3 or 4 songs on the next "Best Of". It didn`t sell because the time was not right somehow in 2001, I don`t know why. Just a matter of Zeitgeist, I guess. Would it be released 2020, it would be the next Nr. 1 in the UK.
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Post by lasttrain929 on Jul 23, 2020 18:27:49 GMT
Always thought this bonus track from Zoom should have been on the original release, a real over looked gem.
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Jul 23, 2020 20:52:54 GMT
Post by Chippa on Jul 23, 2020 20:52:54 GMT
I enjoy Zoom, a lot. However, songs like Lonesome Lullaby, and the boring All She Wanted, really drag it down a notch.Maybe those two songs should have been replaced.
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Post by BSJ on Jul 23, 2020 21:25:39 GMT
Love Zoom.
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Jul 23, 2020 21:36:25 GMT
Post by unomusette on Jul 23, 2020 21:36:25 GMT
I quite like Zoom too, haven't listened to it in ages though. Most albums have at least one dodgy track on so I don't think it's much different in that way. From what I can remember the impression I had was that Jeff rather enjoyed himself making it, with Easy Money for example where he was plainly venting something. But something must be stopping him from playing any of it live, who knows what that might be.
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Post by ShardEnder on Jul 23, 2020 21:40:18 GMT
Always thought this bonus track from Zoom should have been on the original release, a real over looked gem. That one was recorded between 2002 and 2004 then finished a few years later for a scrapped follow-up to Zoom - I really wish it had been released as a standalone single or to promote the Zoom remaster in 2013, because it really is one of his finest recent melodies. (BTW, Point Of No Return was another track from the same project.)
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Post by cleldo on Jul 24, 2020 14:21:00 GMT
A good album and I gotta say I loved the live dvd
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Jul 25, 2020 13:52:43 GMT
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Post by erchie on Jul 25, 2020 13:52:43 GMT
The songwriting on Zoom is top-notch. Many of the songs have these great bridges that the recent albums lack. Just For Love in particular comes to mind with its "Came a long way cross the border" bit.
I enjoyed the 2013 remaster that strips some of the brickwalling. I have yet to hear the promo version that's apparently even better. I don't understand the exclusion of Long Black Road on the remaster. I thought that was better than most of the main album.
I like to sequence the Flashback songs and other bonus tracks from the era as "Zoom Part 2". Here's my playlist that I play regularly: Long Black Road Xanadu Love Changes All Tears In Your Life Grieg's Piano Concerto In A Minor Surrender Latitude 88 North Little Town Flirt Helpless Who's That?
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Post by tremblinwilbury on Jul 25, 2020 14:09:00 GMT
I agree with you erchie, that period at the beginning of the noughties had Jeff's songwriting at its finest - probably The missing gem from Zoom, of course, is Long Black Road. Ages ago I posted a long line of cover versions I found on YouTube - can't find that now, though. But, I did find this
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Post by Timeblue on Jul 26, 2020 9:18:45 GMT
I agree with you erchie , that period at the beginning of the noughties had Jeff's songwriting at its finest - probably The missing gem from Zoom, of course, is Long Black Road. Ages ago I posted a long line of cover versions I found on YouTube - can't find that now, though. But, I did find this Maybe it will be included in the 40th anniversary edition ....
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Post by janne on Jul 26, 2020 10:22:54 GMT
I had some expectations, but I'm sorry, I can't even listen to it.
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Post by eloandy on Jul 27, 2020 19:06:56 GMT
IMHO one of Jeffs most underrated albums.
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Post by mrradio on Aug 1, 2020 20:59:01 GMT
Rarely gets an outing here I’m afraid. A lot of that is down to the very brickwalled mix/mastering which robs the songs of any dynamics and makes it very harsh to listen to. It does have a handful of very nice songs, like Moment in Paradise, but it’s very much a Jeff solo album for me. I’ve been listening a lot to Armchair Theatre lately and I think that album has aged incredibly well. “Every Little Thing” is such a classic.
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