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Post by eloandy on Jul 27, 2020 19:03:52 GMT
Me and tedblight were talking about this the other day. We sort of agreed that its legendary status is almost entirely down to its non-availability all these years and not necessarily the quality of the song. Good to finally hear a 'clean' version though. To my ears it sounds quite dated, very '80s and i thought the lyrics were a little bit corny. Having said all that, i still love it. IT'S ELO!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Grroosss on Aug 2, 2020 7:55:51 GMT
Me and tedblight were talking about this the other day. We sort of agreed that its legendary status is almost entirely down to its non-availability all these years and not necessarily the quality of the song. That's what I've always thought, too. Considering how protective over it Jeff is nowadays, why was it ever played for that fan club in the first place? Why not pick something else, surely there would've been some scrapped demos to choose from, or one of the missing tracks from Time? Would there have been as much hype around say, Time Traveller, if that was the song that someone secretly recorded?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 21:03:57 GMT
Well, I believe those comments that Kelly made about Beatles Forever in that magazine piece have contributed greatly to the hype around it. When the album came out without it, I was PISSED.
I'm still pissed.
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Post by eloandy on Aug 3, 2020 18:46:33 GMT
Me and tedblight were talking about this the other day. We sort of agreed that its legendary status is almost entirely down to its non-availability all these years and not necessarily the quality of the song. That's what I've always thought, too. Considering how protective over it Jeff is nowadays, why was it ever played for that fan club in the first place? Why not pick something else, surely there would've been some scrapped demos to choose from, or one of the missing tracks from Time? Would there have been as much hype around say, Time Traveller, if that was the song that someone secretly recorded? Didn't Jeff say recently that he had "literally thousands" of demo's on cassettes. What i wouldn't give to have a trawl through that archive.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 19:53:17 GMT
That's what I've always thought, too. Considering how protective over it Jeff is nowadays, why was it ever played for that fan club in the first place? Why not pick something else, surely there would've been some scrapped demos to choose from, or one of the missing tracks from Time? Would there have been as much hype around say, Time Traveller, if that was the song that someone secretly recorded? Didn't Jeff say recently that he had "literally thousands" of demo's on cassettes. What i wouldn't give to have a trawl through that archive. It could be like Beatles Anthology, where we hear between-takes conversations, like this:
Richard: "Jeff, what kind of effects do you want on this song?"
Jeff: "Yes."
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Post by orioles70 on Nov 18, 2020 22:24:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 21:04:29 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if this was released on this 50th anniversary year? It almost seems like a no-brainer. Jeff is even allowed to write a few notes saying how much he hates it, but he can blame it on the fans.
Sigh.....I'm looking at that Japan CD of Secret Messages.....$50CDN.
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Post by StrangeMagic on Apr 19, 2021 3:06:18 GMT
Wouldn't it be great if this was released on this 50th anniversary year? It almost seems like a no-brainer. Jeff is even allowed to write a few notes saying how much he hates it, but he can blame it on the fans. Sigh.....I'm looking at that Japan CD of Secret Messages.....$50CDN.
It's $15.65 USD. How much is that Canadian?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2021 20:33:12 GMT
I did look at these sites, briefly. I dunno. Seemed a bit complicated for my simple mind. Shipping costs? (Edit: Availability = sold out).
Anyway - it's coming to me at a slightly higher price.
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Post by StrangeMagic on Apr 20, 2021 4:12:03 GMT
I did look at these sites, briefly. I dunno. Seemed a bit complicated for my simple mind. Shipping costs? (Edit: Availability = sold out). Anyway - it's coming to me at a slightly higher price. Shipping cost from CD Japan are a bit higher. I choose the three-week option because I've got forever, don't I.
I don't think you'll be sorry.
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Post by lawrev on Apr 27, 2021 0:52:34 GMT
BF is a decent song, but not the best, and a product of its time. And it coming on the heels of the John Lennon medley during the Time Tour. The medley was certainly a highlight of the show I saw! And, there are worse ELO songs on other albums. So, if it was finally released, its mythical status would disappear. Unless, of course, there was an unplugged version in the vaults.
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