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Post by Timeblue on Dec 14, 2019 20:59:15 GMT
The class of '77 along with Louis go on tour with Out Of The Blue. Like Horace said in another thread, Jeff and the others are NOT getting any younger so please pick up the bloody phone and just say 'hi,hello' whatever! just get in touch and see where it leads. If any of Jeffs team reads this forum,they will see the love that we (and the rest of the world) have for the band and their history. What is it going to take for them to get in contact? Please Jeff,don't take this bitterness to your grave....
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Post by ShardEnder on Dec 15, 2019 1:11:25 GMT
Having lost Kelly and Hugh, the best anyone can probably hope for now is a reunion of the 1986 era line-up, but I feel that's unlikely for many reasons. First of all, Bev, Mik and Lou all remain personae non gratae with Jeff, while I don't believe Richard is up to playing live yet, leaving only Dave Morgan as a possibility, since Martin Smith appears to be more of a low-key producer/engineer than a performer these days. Although it may seem even more of an unlikely outcome, I'd love to see Jeff do something with The Orchestra, who are all still active as a group. Yeah, I know - pigs might fly!
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Post by Horacewimp on Dec 15, 2019 9:04:23 GMT
I can’t see Jeff ditching the live band he has currently got but a few guest appearances by ex members would be a good compromise for the fans. ShardEnder didn’t you mention that on one of the previous tours such a thing was in planning for the Birmingham concert, did this fall through and why? I saw Bev on Friday with Quill and they do a song “Elephant in the Room” based on an experience Bev had when he went to a meeting and he felt very much left out of things and everyone went quiet when he arrived, he didn’t elaborate any more but I wonder what he was referring too.
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Post by Timeblue on Dec 15, 2019 11:36:52 GMT
I can’t see Jeff ditching the live band he has currently got but a few guest appearances by ex members would be a good compromise for the fans. ShardEnder didn’t you mention that on one of the previous tours such a thing was in planning for the Birmingham concert, did this fall through and why? I saw Bev on Friday with Quill and they do a song “Elephant in the Room” based on an experience Bev had when he went to a meeting and he felt very much left out of things and everyone went quiet when he arrived, he didn’t elaborate any more but I wonder what he was referring too. Cue rumours and conspiracies.....
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Post by Timeblue on Dec 15, 2019 11:37:50 GMT
If anyone is going to have an idea then that would be Shardender....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 23:34:45 GMT
I want ELO50, a 3CD collection of hits, misses, and unreleased. Make it 50 tracks. Whatever.
CD1 focusses on No Answer, ELO2, On The Third Day, Eldorado and Face The Music. CD2 focusses on A New World Record, Out Of The Blue, Discovery, Xanadu and Time. CD3 focusses on Secret Messages, Balance Of Power, Zoom, Alone In The Universe and From Out Of Nowhere.
Someone might force His Jeffness to actually write notes and say substantial things about each track/album. Tell us how embarrassing Beatles Forever is, which will be hidden in the early part of CD3, Jeff.
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Post by ShardEnder on Dec 16, 2019 1:47:45 GMT
ShardEnder didn’t you mention that on one of the previous tours such a thing was in planning for the Birmingham concert, did this fall through and why? You're probably referring to the first of two homecoming shows Jeff played in April 2016... My ever-reliable contact* revealed there had been negotiations behind the scenes between members of a certain local supergroup that had planned on appearing as a surprise unannounced opening act for ELO. However, it seems as if Roy backed away from talks at the very last minute when it came to his attention that Bev had jumped the gun and booked a small number of dates with Trevor Burton as The Move, looking to use this brief tour as his way of marking the band's 50th anniversary over what I'm sure would have proved a far more high profile if relatively short-lived celebration. However, that didn't stop Roy from being spotted in the audience of the aforementioned April 16 concert along with Dave Morgan and all three of Jeff's original colleagues in The Idle Race, plus a few of his relatives. Saying that, another person I've spoken to suggested it was actually The Idle Race looking to make a surprise appearance that day, but there were no such barriers to this happening. Following some negative and very public comments from Roy indicating his disapproval of the idea, Bev doubled down by confirming further Move activity, though Trevor soon dropped out because of ill health, forcing a renaming to The Bev Bevan Band for legal reasons not a million miles from the troubles that plagued ELO Part II before this had to rebrand as The Orchestra. With all this still fresh in the minds of everyone involved, Roy issued an ultimatum that stated he wouldn't show up for ELO's subsequent induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame if Bev was there. I'm sure Roy being on stage with Jeff again took priority, even if Bev had initially posted on his social media accounts and given his indication during interviews that he fully planned on also attending such an important occasion. Anyway, it wasn't long until Bev announced yet more tour dates, quickly insisting that this was always his plan despite considerable evidence to the contrary existing. In reality, I get the feeling it wasn't hard for everyone else to force him out when there were so many previous reasons to cite, and we didn't even get to see a reunion of the other three members being inducted that day, since Jeff performed with his touring group, Roy only gave a speech, and Richard had already been forced to drop out of the public eye as a result of his ongoing medical issue. What could have been, eh? *This is the same source who told me very specific details about From Out Of Nowhere months before the rest of the world knew anything, so I've no reason to doubt the validity of their claims. Besides, it's not the first (or last) insider information they've given me.
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Post by ShardEnder on Dec 16, 2019 2:11:33 GMT
I want ELO50, a 3CD collection of hits, misses, and unreleased. Make it 50 tracks. Whatever. CD1 focusses on No Answer, ELO2, On The Third Day, Eldorado and Face The Music. CD2 focusses on A New World Record, Out Of The Blue, Discovery, Xanadu and Time. CD3 focusses on Secret Messages, Balance Of Power, Zoom, Alone In The Universe and From Out Of Nowhere. Someone might force His Jeffness to actually write notes and say substantial things about each track/album. Tell us how embarrassing Beatles Forever is, which will be hidden in the early part of CD3, Jeff. There's almost certainly something in the pipeline to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the first recording made under the ELO name (10538 Overture, started in July 1970), and we're long overdue an upgrade to the career-spanning Flashback retrospective. A 3CD set containing fifty songs doesn't seem unreasonable, especially as Afterglow and the aforementioned compilation from 2000 had a similar format, not to mention roughly the same number of tracks. On the other hand, would Jeff approve the reissuing of Secret Messages in its originally intended double album form without Beatles Forever then suddenly agree to this mythical outtake featuring elsewhere so soon after? In terms of previously unheard content, we might get to hear a few of those tapes he's recently spoken of supposedly not having the equipment to play, but I think we can rule out this particular cut altogether. If we consider how much Jeff has embraced social media as a promotional tool lately, #ELO50 seems too perfect a marketing device for him to ignore, especially if this really will be his last great burst of activity, as suggested in one interview I've seen. Also, did he really spend all that time rehearsing selections from the newest studio project with his touring band just to play a handful of small shows in support of this release? I'm "predicting" that we can expect more live dates in the spring or summer, with the focus being on further US and European concerts... Oh, and what of the claims that a professional film crew had captured this year's American tour with Dhani Harrison? Is it too early for us to be getting a Wembley Or Bust follow-up?
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Post by Timeblue on Dec 16, 2019 9:29:04 GMT
ShardEnder didn’t you mention that on one of the previous tours such a thing was in planning for the Birmingham concert, did this fall through and why? You're probably referring to the first of two homecoming shows Jeff played in April 2016... My ever-reliable contact* revealed there had been negotiations behind the scenes between members of a certain local supergroup that had planned on appearing as a surprise unannounced opening act for ELO. However, it seems as if Roy backed away from talks at the very last minute when it came to his attention that Bev had jumped the gun and booked a small number of dates with Trevor Burton as The Move, looking to use this brief tour as his way of marking the band's 50th anniversary over what I'm sure would have proved a far more high profile if relatively short-lived celebration. However, that didn't stop Roy from being spotted in the audience of the aforementioned April 16 concert along with Dave Morgan and all three of Jeff's original colleagues in The Idle Race, plus a few of his relatives. Saying that, another person I've spoken to suggested it was actually The Idle Race looking to make a surprise appearance that day, but there were no such barriers to this happening. Following some negative and very public comments from Roy indicating his disapproval of the idea, Bev doubled down by confirming further Move activity, though Trevor soon dropped out because of ill health, forcing a renaming to The Bev Bevan Band for legal reasons not a million miles from the troubles that plagued ELO Part II before this had to rebrand as The Orchestra. With all this still fresh in the minds of everyone involved, Roy issued an ultimatum that stated he wouldn't show up for ELO's subsequent induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame if Bev was there. I'm sure Roy being on stage with Jeff again took priority, even if Bev had initially posted on his social media accounts and given his indication during interviews that he fully planned on also attending such an important occasion. Anyway, it wasn't long until Bev announced yet more tour dates, quickly insisting that this was always his plan despite considerable evidence to the contrary existing. In reality, I get the feeling it wasn't hard for everyone else to force him out when there were so many previous reasons to cite, and we didn't even get to see a reunion of the other three members being inducted that day, since Jeff performed with his touring group, Roy only gave a speech, and Richard had already been forced to drop out of the public eye as a result of his ongoing medical issue. What could have been, eh? *This is the same source who told me very specific details about From Out Of Nowhere months before the rest of the world knew anything, so I've no reason to doubt the validity of their claims. Besides, it's not the first (or last) insider information they've given me. To me,the whole RRHOF saga was a disaster. What should have been a glorious reunion of sorts turned out to be a public relations cock up. Yes,Bev didn't do himself any favours by what he did but he had far more right to be there than Roy who contributed very little to the ELO story. To the world it seemed that ELO were getting their recognition but to the true fans it was a badly handled mess and embarrassing to watch (in my eyes anyway)
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Post by ShardEnder on Dec 16, 2019 12:57:31 GMT
I also remember there being a lot of criticism from fans in particular regarding which members of ELO were to be inducted - it's normally the Hall of Fame organisers who make such decisions, though I know in a few cases that bands are given some say when it comes to "snubbing" certain individuals. For example, it's believed that the other members of Fleetwood Mac had put considerable pressure on the Hall to ensure that virtually everyone else who had played with the group in its early years except Bob Welch should be mentioned, and in ELO's case, I'm fairly certain Jeff would have at least approved - if not outright suggested - the decision to only recognise its three co-founders, plus Richard, who had technically been there since the very beginning, yet was never given equal status in an official capacity. (My understanding is that Richard was always legally a session musician who received a salary that Jeff felt was befitting of his contributions, though he was also sponsored by Yamaha for a period, just as Bev had deals with Slingerland and Remo.) After everything that happened with ELO Part II/The Orchestra, it was unlikely that Kelly, Mik or Lou were ever going to be inducted, though I felt they at least deserved a reference in the speech Jeff gave, never mind that Roy's brief comments barely justified his presence. In summary, that was a truly disastrous evening, and when you consider how long we'd been hoping to see ELO celebrated in this way, the wait was barely worth it.
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Post by flyershistory on Dec 16, 2019 15:39:04 GMT
How about a 2000 CD Boxed set entitled "From the Dustbin" containing the digitized tapes ?
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Post by Timeblue on Dec 16, 2019 15:48:19 GMT
How about a 2000 CD Boxed set entitled "From the Dustbin" containing the digitized tapes ? They could do it like those magazines you can buy where you get something in every edition,building up to the 2000th edition where you finally get the last cd....
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Post by Timeblue on Dec 16, 2019 15:52:23 GMT
I also remember there being a lot of criticism from fans in particular regarding which members of ELO were to be inducted - it's normally the Hall of Fame organisers who make such decisions, though I know in a few cases that bands are given some say when it comes to "snubbing" certain individuals. For example, it's believed that the other members of Fleetwood Mac had put considerable pressure on the Hall to ensure that virtually everyone else who had played with the group in its early years except Bob Welch should be mentioned, and in ELO's case, I'm fairly certain Jeff would have at least approved - if not outright suggested - the decision to only recognise its three co-founders, plus Richard, who had technically been there since the very beginning, yet was never given equal status in an official capacity. (My understanding is that Richard was always legally a session musician who received a salary that Jeff felt was befitting of his contributions, though he was also sponsored by Yamaha for a period, just as Bev had deals with Slingerland and Remo.) After everything that happened with ELO Part II/The Orchestra, it was unlikely that Kelly, Mik or Lou were ever going to be inducted, though I felt they at least deserved a reference in the speech Jeff gave, never mind that Roy's brief comments barely justified his presence. In summary, that was a truly disastrous evening, and when you consider how long we'd been hoping to see ELO celebrated in this way, the wait was barely worth it. It WAS a disastrous evening and not befitting the glorious history of ELO at all. Like you say,Bev could have gone but made a lame excuse not to,if he HAD gone who knows what might have happened...
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Post by elophile on Dec 16, 2019 18:48:12 GMT
Jeff throws caution to the wind, going back to his roots as the hairiest, eyeliner wearing mutha' that ever was. Jeff and the band embark on the heaviest, most orchestral, most badass rock show with nary a hit single in sight. Everyone's minds are blown to bits!!!! (Don't ask me where Danny Devito enters the picture. I just liked his swagger.)
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Post by BSJ on Dec 16, 2019 23:15:50 GMT
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