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Post by BSJ on Jul 26, 2018 18:25:03 GMT
Some PS's from other countries are very cool.
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Post by jackpunch on Jul 26, 2018 21:52:20 GMT
Apologies, but it's wank utter wank. Sorry
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Post by soonerorlater on Sept 3, 2018 17:29:04 GMT
I was very surprised to see (today) that the price of this set has been cut to £100 on Jeff's official site, over two weeks ahead of its release. It's still not on Amazon but the chances of me buying it have just increased somewhat!
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Post by soonerorlater on Nov 23, 2018 15:47:54 GMT
Just picked this up in the Amazon Black Friday sale for £78!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 6:49:09 GMT
So, yet again, it seems that there is an ELO release of old material that MOST OF US SERIOUS FANS couldn't care less about. So, 1) who buys this stuff? And 2) who determines these failures?
For the love of god, can we please get someone in charge of these releases that actually has a clue? (Shardender, whassuuuup?)
I consider myself to be one of the biggest ELO fans on the planet, but I don't care about this or the 2LP Secret Messages. And the reason I do not care is because the creators of these products clearly do not care. These releases are severely lacking in every respect when compared to most other band's archival rereleases.
Why must ELO fans suffer so much?
Jeff, can you see the injustice? Do you care at all?
Sheesh.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 6:58:24 GMT
PS: I'm really enjoying the 5CD 20th anniversary of The Verve - Urban Hymns.
Hey Jeff, you should check this out, and maybe get a clue.
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Post by soonerorlater on Nov 27, 2018 16:59:07 GMT
I finally received my copy of this much-maligned box set today so I thought I'd record my opinion of it, just in case anyone else here is still thinking about buying it too.... The box is clean and stylish in presentation and solidly built. The artwork though certainly leans towards the style we've been seeing on the 'Jeff Lynne's ELO' merchandise of the last three tours and that has very little in common with the feel of this box set. It is after all, pure 70's and even though many of the A Sides here have featured in the live set recently, none of the B-Sides have! As to the contents.... Plus Points - The vinyl pressing quality is immaculate.
- All sleeves are card, even the replica stock sleeves (Harvest, WB, Jet, etc;).
- The reproduction quality of the sleeve artwork is exceptionally good. I've dug out a few of the originals and the reprints compare well.
- Unbeknownst to me previously, Livin' Thing and Mr Blue Sky are indeed pressed in blue vinyl! I think they should have made more of this fact in the advertising/press release.
Negative Points: - Bearing in mind the last point above, Sweet Talkin Woman is not on purple vinyl - that's inexplicable.
- The singles that originally had moulded labels, e.g. Evil Woman, etc; have those labels disappointingly reproduced as paper. It doesn't look right if you're familiar with the originals.
- There is no booklet - an obvious flaw. Every box set needs a booklet and this is no exception.
- There is no download code - a minor point for some but relevant to me.
For vinyl purists like me, each label has 2018 copyright information added around the edge, so none of these singles is 100% identical to their original counterpart. For completists (not so much me anymore) this makes the set a bit of a must.
So the obvious question - what do they sound like? Sadly I'm just too collector/nerdy to play them. However, I did play Secret Messages just the once when it came out earlier this year so it's not beyond the bounds of possibility. I'll let you know if I do!
Overall grading: a fairly solid 7 out of 10 (It would have been 8 if STW had been purple).
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Post by BSJ on Nov 27, 2018 20:40:23 GMT
Thanks for this soonerorlater. I think the fact that the sleeves are card is a negative. Agree STW not on purple is baffling. Someone know why? Reading about the cheesy “moulded” labels and your review confirming some suspicions, I feel ok not buying this.
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Post by whoman on Nov 27, 2018 21:17:20 GMT
I got this a bit cheaper from Amazon and soonerorlater's assessment is accurate and fair. However, I have played many of mine and the vinyls do sound really good with no hiss or crackle but they have the same lack of clarity as most ELO stuff - I guess the masters are missing or they are not great quality themselves. The live tracks are clear and interesting, different to the Night the Light.... versions due to editing and sound clearer. Elsewhere someone has confirmed these are the correct single edits on each disc so overall I am very pleased with this set. Will there be a volume 2 which would be far more interesting and exactly what would be in it? The never released ELO EP 2 would be a major selling point...
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Post by ShardEnder on Nov 27, 2018 23:08:28 GMT
For the love of god, can we please get someone in charge of these releases that actually has a clue? (Shardender, whassuuuup?) Believe me, there's a world of difference between wanting to hear the best of what may be in the vaults or putting together ideas for theoretical "Deluxe Editions" and actually being the one responsible for assembling new archival packages. Apart from the huge amount of work that goes into sourcing the right mixes, doing research and writing up liner notes, you're then almost certain to hit a brick wall once the artist rejects many of your ideas in favour of putting together something with maximum commercial potential. On top of that, Jeff is more notorious than a lot of his contemporaries when it comes to not really having much time for anything beyond the very biggest hits, which may explain why he's put his weight behind multiple recent live concert albums and videos with much of the same musical content, yet only does this for a mere fraction of what's believed to exist from his decades of studio work. Anyway, I'm curious to know if a second volume will even end up happening, as Jeff previously voted against the inclusion of either previously issued variation of A Matter Of Fact on the expanded Balance Of Power remaster back in 2007. Sure, it's possible he may reconsider when the entire premise of these new boxes is to recreate vintage ELO releases down to the last detail, but that still leaves the question of whether Sony will license the Xanadu material - without those tracks, any set isn't 100% complete. Also, I'd be interested to see where the cut-off date is, since it would be great to have Surrender and Latitude 88 North represented (both of these were technically classic period tracks, yet would only be finished and issued thirty years later by Jeff on his own). Saying that, a logical follow-up is likely to cover the period from 1979 to 1986, ignoring everything from after the original group's disbanding. If anything, there might be a third collection featuring the singles from Armchair Theatre, Zoom, Alone In The Universe and such loose ends as those I've already mentioned, keeping in line with the recent 5CD Original Album Classics. Speaking of that, it's currently available on Amazon for the bargain price of just £14.99!
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Post by Timeblue on Nov 27, 2018 23:47:45 GMT
To me,the simplest answer would be that I hope the true fans don't buy this package. Until the day comes that someone takes the time and care into producing the complete box set AND puts a bit of thought into it (I know that you said about the 'brick wall' Shardender) but Jeff will never authorize a package of 'lesser' hits when he never bothers to play them live.
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Post by soonerorlater on May 16, 2020 11:53:06 GMT
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