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Jeff Lynne: "We didn't do brainless pop. It was intelligent pop"The Electric Light Orchestra have settled a pending debt: they have finally been inducted to the Rock'n'Roll Hall Of Fame, along with Pearl Jam, Journey, Joan Baez, Tupac Shakur and Yes. With this as an excuse, we had an interview with Jeff Lynne, who told us about some of the key moments of his career.There is no pop legend as serene and frontal as
Jeff Lynne. Sitting in the library of a venerable London hotel, with his pleasant
Birmingham accent, intact even after living for 20 years in Beverly Hills (after two marriages, he is currently dating
Camelia Kath, ex-wife of actor Kiefer Sutherland), still retaining the look of an extraordinarily prosperous star of the 80s:
diselegant hair, beard and sunglasses.
The genius normalcy of Lynne, 69 years old, means he was never exactly a pop star, even when
Electric Light Orchestra (ELO) - the band he formed as a sole songwriter and producer in 1970 - were in their glory with their string quarter. ELO had 18 singles in the Top 40 of the
Billboard Hot 100. Between 1972 and 1986, they filled stadiums and dominated an eager, opulent and retro-futuristic style, whose fans include
Daft Punk, The Flaming Lips, director David O. Russell, and Ed Sheeran, with whom Lynne did a duet at the 2015 Grammy Awards.
When Lynne
split up ELO in 1986, he happily changed seats to being a co-composer/producer for people such as
Tom Petty, Roy Orbison and the three remaining
Beatles, as well as being the modest member of the baby boomer supergroup
The Traveling Wilburys, sharing the billboards with
Petty, Orbison, Bob Dylan and George Harrison.
In 2015, he returned as
Jeff Lynne's ELO with the release of his first album in 14 years,
Alone in the Universe - the most recent pleasant surprise in a career full of them. "Obviously everyone is doing it if they can - he says - and I was lucky enough to do it right."
How would you summarize ELO?- A normal band with two cellos and a violin. The string players would normally have a pickup as there weren't appropriate microphones in those days. They'd run around the stage like crazy, playing the instruments in mid-air,
the tuning was horrible, but it was a good show. They would run around with these huge endpins around the corners of the stage,
it's a surprise nobody ended up being stabbed.
ELO is hot again now, however when was it farthest away from it?- Ten or fifteen years ago. We wanted to do a couple of concerts, but there was no interest. All of this has changed in the last six years.
I guess a lot of people noticed that I was doing wasn't brainless pop. It was intelligent pop.When did you notice you could write a hit?- I guess it was with
10538 Overture [in 1972]. I was pleased with it. I remember thinking "Wow, I can really write a tune", because I didn't think I could. The records from my older band, The Idle Race, didn't do well, except with a couple of more loyal fans. After than,
I believe that Evil Woman [in 1975] was "the" tune. I wrote it so quickly. That was when I finally understood how production and songwriting are done.
When ELO were at their highest point in the 70s, did you worry that you didn't have the personality to be a pop star?- Probably. Because
I wasn't and I didn't intend to be one. I don't consider myself a star, I'm a singer-songwriter, vocalist, producer and a guitarist. I can sing well, and also write songs.
It's well known you hated playing live. Was it because of the concerts themselves or because of everything that came along with them?-
It sounded like shit, that was the problem. The equipment back then was trash. I'm a producer, so I can get picky. It didn't sound bad... I make it sound like it was a disaster. It just wasn't what I wanted to do.
What happened to the giant spaceship you used in the 1978 tour?- I believe it was dismantled after the tour. It would have cost hundreds of thousands to keep the damn thing. It was a huge monster.
It was kind of a pain, really, because it took two days to take it from once place to the other, so you had to do the next concert without it, and I suppose people would say "Were is the flying saucer?". I believe they would be a bit disappointed.
Did it ever malfunction?- Yes, every once in a while. We would come up the stage through hydraulic platforms, but sometimes they got stuck and all people could see was your head. "Get me out of here!". Really embarrassing.
Q Magazine named Livin' Thing as their greatest "guilty pleasure". Does this concept bother you?- Yes, because
it actually is a very intelligent song. It goes through two minor relatives at once. You don't see a lot like that. I liked pop.
I didn't like the pretentious twists and turns of the 20 minute long songs from the beginning of the 80s. I wanted to make beautiful and concise three minute songs that sounded good. Pop for me is one of the most powerful forms of music, because it's hard to write a melody that stays strong after 40 years.
In 1979's Discovery, you fully embraced disco music. Did you ever go bowling?- Yes, I once went to Studio 54 [an illustrious New York disco]. It was good, I guess. It was full of movie stars and that kind of people. I like 4/4, basically. The kick going bang, bang, bang, bang.
What song made you the most profit?- Probably
Mr. Blue Sky. It's been in a lot of movies, and they pay fortunes for it. When I wrote it [in a Swiss chalet] it'd been very cloudy, and I was at the top of the mountain. I couldn't see anything or write a tune for a week. Then the sun came out, and I wrote Mr. Blue Sky in a flash. It ended up being a very beautiful song.
When you split up ELO in 1986, was the idea to become a producer?- I didn't have anything in particular planned out, but George Harrison contacted me and asked me to produce his album
Cloud Nine.
Tom Petty found out about it, stopped me in the middle of the road in Los Angeles and told me "Hey, Jeff. Would you like to write songs with me?". I found out I was a great collaborator. It wasn't like I imagined it to be. And of course
Full Moon Fever was a big, big hit. Out of the albums I worked on, it's still my favourite.
Which member of The Traveling Wilburys told the best jokes?-
Roy Orbison. He had the most beautiful laugh I ever heard. It was bright, so it was like a giggle. He could do a Monty Python sketch by himself, doing all parts, and then would fall laughing at himself.
When you were asked to produce the "new" Beatles single Free as a Bird in 1995, did you have to control your inner fan and let your professional side take control?- I'll always be a fan. We spent the entire first day remembering, just George, Paul [McCartney], Ringo [Starr] and I, sitting on a round table, telling stories about the old times. Stories I can't tell, of course. Some were rude. Just being there was enough for me. The other side of this scared me a bit. Doing a record of a cassette with John [Lennon]'s voice and piano mixed together in mono. I did it at two or three in the morning because I didn't want to mess it up and hear them saying "Ha, ha, you can't do it!".
The next day Paul came up to me running and said "You did it! Well done!", and gave me a big hug. It was the best thing that could have happened.
Is it true that in 1968 you witnessed the recording of the Beatles' White Album?- Yes, that was the weirdest thing.
I saw Paul and Ringo in Studio One doing Why Don't We Do It In The Road. And then I went to Studio Two to hear this song that sounded incredible. It was
Glass Onion. We came in, me and The Idle Race drummer. John and George greeted us. On the other side of the window was George Martin, jumping around conducting the strings.
I couldn't sleep for weeks after that.Didn't your mom ever tell you it's rude to wear sunglasses indoors?- No, what she said was
"You looked terrible on television", and then I immediately started using sunglasses because I didn't want to be that way. She'd been drinking all night, I guess. She was always talking about the bags on my eyes. So I always use them. People must have thought "He became an ostentatious idiot with his sunglasses at night", but that wasn't it. I just didn't want to show my bags.
When I Was a Boy (2015) describes your childhood dreams of becoming a musician. Did you achieve everything you wanted to?- Yes, in a certain way. It's kind of weird getting everything you want. And it's been through the years.
Everything I wanted has come to me: the Wilburys, the Beatles... so it's fantastic. I couldn't ask for more.
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EDIT2: Corrected the end of the first question based on
Helmut83's second post.
EDIT3: Reading improvements. (some [of the] key moments, star instead of lead, -[the] director, Oxford comma before Ed Sheeran, duet [at] the, reformulated Evil Woman production and songwriting sentence, corrected pop star sentence, corrected equipment sentence, replaced "comings and goings" with "twists and turns", corrected mountain sentence, corrected collaborator "imagined" sentence, set the Paul hug sentence to bold as in the article and corrected plural for "strings" on the George Martin sentence. Please do not share earlier versions.