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Post by Chippa on May 30, 2019 19:32:18 GMT
Nobody Does It Better plowed over Baby I Love Your Way in round two, and will move on in our tournament.
In round three, that yacht rock classic The Pina Colada Song goes head to head with the Bryan Adams power ballad Heaven. Who will rise from the bloody soft rock battle to emerge victorious? That's up to you. Remember to vote in the poll, or your vote won't count.....
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Post by Horacewimp on May 30, 2019 19:59:11 GMT
A difficult one originally went for Pina Colada but changed my mind and have voted for Bryan.
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Post by elophile on May 30, 2019 20:14:53 GMT
I'm going to show my age here. There are musicians that remind me on a visceral level of all the wonderful things about being a raging hormonal teenager (Prince & The Cars for example). There are musicians that remind me on a visceral level of all the horrible things about being a raging hormonal teenager (Brian Adams, Tears For Fears). My vote for the Pina Colada Song is pretty much a vote against the flood of unwanted emotions that washed over me when I played a few seconds of Heaven...
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Post by unomusette on May 30, 2019 20:30:53 GMT
I do like Heaven but it's a bit cliche-d. I have a softer spot for the Pina Colada song as it's something different from the norm and I'm a sucker for a song with a story
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Post by eloneen on May 30, 2019 20:45:41 GMT
I'm not fond of either of these songs, but I'll go for the Pina Colada song.
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Post by queenofthehours on May 31, 2019 17:38:44 GMT
Unless its up against a song I love, 'The Pina Colada Song' will win every time.
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Post by vlogdance on May 31, 2019 17:40:31 GMT
Good point, Uno - I also enjoy a song that tells a story. Rupert gets my vote.
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Post by Chippa on May 31, 2019 20:00:12 GMT
As a song, I think I like Heaven more. However, in this battle for soft rock dominance, I think the Pina Colada Song is the better choice.
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Post by Helmut83 on May 31, 2019 20:23:36 GMT
I do like Heaven but it's a bit cliche-d. I have a softer spot for the Pina Colada song as it's something different from the norm and I'm a sucker for a song with a story Uno! I can take all of the others writing "Pina Colada", but not you, mi estimada amiga; not at this point anyway. You know what I'm talking about, señorita... I'm voting for that song too, by the way. "Heaven" is good but this one is more groovy.
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Post by eloneen on May 31, 2019 21:56:44 GMT
Helmut83 I know you're disappointed about the omission of the tilde accent mark. It's kind of a pain to include it when typing on an English language keyboard, but it's basically just laziness in my case. I know better, too. But, my dear friend, Uno is not a "senorita." (Yes, another missing accent mark because I'm on my phone and not wanting to be bothered again to figure out how to include it...) I can't let my students find out about my lackadaisical attitude about the details of language!
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Post by Helmut83 on Jun 1, 2019 3:17:04 GMT
eloneen, I wasn't really disappointed, it was more of a joke because of Uno's knowledge of the language. We've been practicing together a few times and as someone who encourages her to learn Spanish I am acting demanding, but it's all in good fun. I am aware that keyboards in English speaking countries don't come with the letter "ñ" and getting it takes some time, but, like you, I can't let my "pupils" adopt any relaxed attitude. As for someone being or not a señorita, at least where I live the defining factor of it is not whether you are married or not (like in English or French) but the age of the person. For example, calling a 25 year old married woman a "señora" would feel weird, uncomfortable and would probably be taken as if you were trying to say that she is (or looks) old. In the same way, calling a lady in her 60s "señorita" because she is single would sound ridiculous and a bit of a mockery too. I couldn't assure this works like this in all of the Spanish-speaking world, maybe not; but it surely does in Argentina and it's surrounding countries. And I live in Argentina, so of course that's the Spanish I'm going to speak. So in this context, Uno isn't that old that I would call her a "señora" (unless I wanted to offend her). I can understand, however, if that clashes with what you guys are used to.
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Post by eloneen on Jun 1, 2019 5:11:00 GMT
Thanks Helmut83 Cool! Very interesting how these things vary from one place to another! Of course I know that you know your own language, but I assumed that you were being playful and generous with Uno. (She and I are close in age). I didn't know the implications of the choice in terms in Argentina. These things also change over time as well as varying by location. In France, "mademoiselle" has been eliminated from official forms (since 2012) in order to give all women the same level of respect as men regardless of their marital status. Calling a woman past a certain age "mademoiselle" is often viewed as an attempt to blatantly flatter and possibly flirt with her. Some women welcome it and find it charming; some don't. Some don't care. I married in my mid 30s and would have felt a bit weird being called "mademoiselle" during my thirty-something single years- a bit demeaned, really, not because being married is necessarily better than being single, but "mademoiselle" feels very dismissive to me as a grown woman, and I prefer what I've always seen as the assumption of gravitas I associate with "madame." Sorry to go off track on this thread... Please pardon me, I never do that. smileys-whistling-823718
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Post by Helmut83 on Jun 1, 2019 6:11:37 GMT
eloneen , things vary so much between places, that in Spain "coger" means to take or grab something, while in Argentina it's a vulgar word meaning to have sexual intercourse (the "f" word). Interesting, I didn't know that "mademoiselle" had been eliminated from official forms in France, and I like it. The differentiation was pretty pointless and as you say, both married and unmarried deserve equal respect. Besides, it saves the situation where someone who doesn't know the marital statues of the woman he's talking to has to start guessing or ask about it just to be able to referr to her correctly. It's so easy to screw up when you don't fully know a language and it's subtleties... Choosing the word "mademoiselle" based on the age of the person (like we'd do here with "señorita") could mean that you'd be involuntarily flirting with her!
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Post by eloneen on Jun 1, 2019 13:11:58 GMT
I guess it wouldn't automatically be considered flirting, but it could be seen that way in come cases, depending on the situation -- suggesting a woman's youth and checking out her marital status at the same time...
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Post by BSJ on Jun 1, 2019 17:16:43 GMT
Dislike both songs. So, I'm also voting for the softer rock song, Pina Colada Song. Also knowing it will be voted out.
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