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Mar 31, 2019 1:55:44 GMT
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Post by jackpunch on Mar 31, 2019 1:55:44 GMT
Ah, I see. I thought that might be what you were going on about. You mean a Bigsby tremelo. That's a Bigsby, not a Bigby.... And it clearly isn't a spelling mistake since you've called it a bigby consistently. You've just had a Spinal Tap "dobly" moment and made yourself look like an idiot. Before you start teaching me about guitar perhaps you should learn the basics. Get yourself to Amazon.com, there'll be a guitar for dummies book available I'm sure. BTW... What on earth is a studio instrument. A guitar is a guitar. Your comments make it clear to me you know nothing about guitars. You probably don't want to criticize people about spelling mistakes, black pot. If you can't figure out Bigsby from Bigby, well... Obviously a studio instrument is one he only uses in the studio. I'm not answering any more of your comments. But feel free to rag on me some more, if you enjoy it. 😂
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Mar 31, 2019 5:22:05 GMT
Post by coathanger on Mar 31, 2019 5:22:05 GMT
Hi SM, a tremolo arm on a guitar is used to give expression to playing by slightly lengthening or shortening the strings using a Spring mechanism to give a vibrato or pitch bend effect. It's fairly standard on a lot of guitars and can't be regarded in any way as just a 'studio' item. Most Fender Stratocasters (one of the most commonplace guitars available) feature a tremolo arm, with probably its most famous historical exponent being Hank Marvin from The Shadows, as do many other makes and models of guitar such as the big fat semi-acoustic ones favoured by Brian Setzer of Stray Cats, a brilliant guitarist by the way. My own Stratocaster has a tremolo arm fitted and I've most definitely used it live on occasion. The Bigsby bridge and tremolo combination shown on the picture you posted is just a variety of tremolo arm, nothing more elaborate than that. Have a look at this link for a more complete description: Bigsby Vibrato Tailpiece coathanger , thanks for trying to help. I know what a Bigsby is and I know what it's used for. I said "studio guitar" meaning I saw a guitar so equipped in a photograph of a guitar in a room of Jeff's home studio (The Barn) that I've never seen him use on stage, either when I was present or in videos or photographs of a performance. Studio guitar = guitar Jeff uses in the studio and not on stage. Stage guitar = guitar Jeff uses onstage that he may have also used in the studio. Maybe he'll use a guitar onstage this summer he's only used before in the studio and it will become a stage guitar. I only mentioned seeing it in a photo of the studio to establish that Jeff is familiar with the effect and may have used it in the song. I know a Bigsby is not just a studio piece. I know some guitars come equipped with them and I know you can add them as an accessory. Obviously a guitarist can play a guitar equipped with a tremolo arm onstage if he or she desires. Next time I'll type an essay so there's no misunderstanding. I just didn't want people to have to wade through all that verbiage so I used shorthand. Too short, I see. You're welcome. We all make mistakes from time to time. As you can see, the context of what is typed (or mis-spelled) can have a dramatic effect on message boards and the like. Clarity is always worth the extra mile, particularly when trying to explain a technical issue.
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Mar 31, 2019 8:05:29 GMT
Post by Helmut83 on Mar 31, 2019 8:05:29 GMT
Unless you are driving force of the band by writing the songs. John Lennon wasn't a good instrument player either. Think Travelling Wilbury's. That's right, although Travelling Wilburys was a very atypical band in most aspects, including how it was formed. They didn't need to go out and select a drummer, a bassist, a keyboardist, a guitarist and a singer like most bands need to do. But yes, at least three of them (Dylan, Petty and Lynne) got there because of their songwriting ability.
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Mar 31, 2019 19:25:50 GMT
Post by StrangeMagic on Mar 31, 2019 19:25:50 GMT
Think Travelling Wilbury's. That's right, although Travelling Wilburys was a very atypical band in most aspects, including how it was formed. They didn't need to go out and select a drummer, a bassist, a keyboardist, a guitarist and a singer like most bands need to do. But yes, at least three of them (Dylan, Petty and Lynne) got there because of their songwriting ability. I'd argue that all the Traveling Wilburys got there because they were friends and because they were working together on various projects. George was hanging out with Bob in L.A. at the time and had never done an extensive studio project with him. I think he wanted to see how it would go. It turned out rather nicely, didn't it?
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Post by ShardEnder on Mar 31, 2019 20:16:37 GMT
I'm protective of the truth, in particular. I don't like to see people spread unfounded rumors about Jeff. Jeff doesn't often use a Bigby, but I've spotted one on a studio instrument, never a performing instrument. This is a Bigby on an epiphone. That's all I'm teaching you about guitar.
Hi SM, a tremolo arm on a guitar is used to give expression to playing by slightly lengthening or shortening the strings using a Spring mechanism to give a vibrato or pitch bend effect. It's fairly standard on a lot of guitars and can't be regarded in any way as just a 'studio' item. Most Fender Stratocasters (one of the most commonplace guitars available) feature a tremolo arm, with probably its most famous historical exponent being Hank Marvin from The Shadows, as do many other makes and models of guitar such as the big fat semi-acoustic ones favoured by Brian Setzer of Stray Cats, a brilliant guitarist by the way. My own Stratocaster has a tremolo arm fitted and I've most definitely used it live on occasion. The Bigsby bridge and tremolo combination shown on the picture you posted is just a variety of tremolo arm, nothing more elaborate than that. Have a look at this link for a more complete description: Bigsby Vibrato TailpieceOn a related note, you can definitely hear the Hank Marvin influence whenever Jeff does play with a tremolo arm (if not Hello My Old Friend, then Stream Of Stars contains a great example), and I'm genuinely surprised he's not produced even a song for the Stray Cats yet - they once shared a bill in the late '80s, with my understanding being that Dave Edmunds was the one who first introduced Jeff to their music. I'm a great fan of Jeff's all-too-rare excursions into rockabilly, so a collaboration might have plenty of potential for everyone involved, especially now Brian Setzer has reunited the band again to celebrate its 40th anniversary...
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Mar 31, 2019 20:47:17 GMT
Post by coathanger on Mar 31, 2019 20:47:17 GMT
Hi SM, a tremolo arm on a guitar is used to give expression to playing by slightly lengthening or shortening the strings using a Spring mechanism to give a vibrato or pitch bend effect. It's fairly standard on a lot of guitars and can't be regarded in any way as just a 'studio' item. Most Fender Stratocasters (one of the most commonplace guitars available) feature a tremolo arm, with probably its most famous historical exponent being Hank Marvin from The Shadows, as do many other makes and models of guitar such as the big fat semi-acoustic ones favoured by Brian Setzer of Stray Cats, a brilliant guitarist by the way. My own Stratocaster has a tremolo arm fitted and I've most definitely used it live on occasion. The Bigsby bridge and tremolo combination shown on the picture you posted is just a variety of tremolo arm, nothing more elaborate than that. Have a look at this link for a more complete description: Bigsby Vibrato TailpieceOn a related note, you can definitely hear the Hank Marvin influence whenever Jeff does play with a tremolo arm (if not Hello My Old Friend, then Stream Of Stars contains a great example), and I'm genuinely surprised he's not produced even a song for the Stray Cats yet - they once shared a bill in the late '80s, with my understanding being that Dave Edmunds was the one who first introduced Jeff to their music. I'm a great fan of Jeff's all-too-rare excursions into rockabilly, so a collaboration might have plenty of potential for everyone involved, especially now Brian Setzer has reunited the band again to celebrate its 40th anniversary... The Stray Cats were always about minimalism and aggression in their approach so perhaps this is why they've steered clear of a Jeff Lynne style production over the years. They remain one of the best live acts I've ever witnessed - a double bass, a guitar, a snare drum, bass drum, high hat and cymbal with vocals - not even a drum stool. They could set up, sound check and break it all down again in a blink of an eye. Have a look at Lee Rocker's bass tutorials and seminars on YouTube. He actually says that for a proper stand-up bassist, a drummer can be a hinderance and I can see where he's coming from. Awesome musician. EDIT: This new clip helps to explain Stray Cats mindset. They recorded their 40th anniversary album virtually live, with little or no overdubbing in the most basic way with minimal microphones (although the eventual recording technology was solid state) with Peter Collins, who favours that approach, as producer. Jeff Lynne's work as a producer is of course excellent in its own way, but heavily features studio-heavy tricks and techniques, so I think the chances of a meeting of minds with them would have been slim to vanishing!
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