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Post by StrangeMagic on Nov 26, 2018 19:25:19 GMT
I became obsessed with identifying the original paintings and one statue on the Secret Messages cover. I got four of them. Can anyone help me with the rest? I looked at complete works for these artists: Gainsborough, Van Dyke, Rembrandt, and Vermeer. I searched the complete oil and tempera holdings of the Birmingham Museum. No luck. There is so much expertise in this group, I thought I'd ask here before I went through the complete holdings of the Louvre, which could take a while. Here's what I have so far. "Pastoral Concert" is also called "Fête Champêtre." The work has also been attributed to Giorgione, and was at the time the album was originally released.
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Post by StrangeMagic on Nov 26, 2018 19:33:02 GMT
I know the background is ""The Future's A Bit Fishy. We've Got A Hand In It" by Hags Photography.
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Post by StrangeMagic on Nov 26, 2018 19:40:05 GMT
Notice the Venus of Urbino is reversed from the orientation of the original on the album cover. Ordinarily I would attribute that to aesthetics, but on an album titled Secret Messages... makes you go hmmmmm.
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Post by elophile on Nov 26, 2018 22:28:12 GMT
The dude in the armor with the mustache/goatee looks like he might be from a Velasquez painting to me... that's all i got.
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Post by Timeblue on Nov 27, 2018 5:31:54 GMT
In the house on the right,there are 4 guys who seem familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it....
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Post by Horacewimp on Nov 27, 2018 8:25:11 GMT
I thought the woman on the left in the blue dress would be easy to track down but can’t find anything, the guy standing above her looks like someone from Birminghams Industrial Revolution but again can’t track him down.
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Post by Timeblue on Nov 27, 2018 14:53:02 GMT
I'm almost sure this topic has been covered before on here but if it has,I can't remember who the missing people are...
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Post by Horacewimp on Nov 27, 2018 16:00:20 GMT
I'm almost sure this topic has been covered before on here but if it has,I can't remember who the missing people are... I thought that last night but did some forum searching and couldn’t find anything, especially the lady in the blue dress. Edit: It might be this thread we were thinking of jefflynneselo.proboards.com/thread/1512/small-pic-inside-aitu
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Post by Timeblue on Nov 27, 2018 16:14:46 GMT
I've just been trawling through the threads too! And you're right,this is the thread I was looking for...
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Post by ShardEnder on Nov 27, 2018 20:09:40 GMT
Long before I committed to writing a book about ELO's music, I was studying New Media at Leeds College of Art and Design, where one of my course modules involved creating a presentation on five album covers, including Secret Messages (which I'm sure comes as no surprise to anybody here who knows me). Although I wasn't able to identify all the constituent elements of this piece, instead mentioning that it was simply a collage of works by various classical artists, there is one small piece of trivia that might be of use: the band shot was modified from a picture featured on page 10 of the American official programme for the Time Tour. I'll hopefully be revisiting this subject at much greater length in the near future as I continue work on my ambitious project, so would it be alright if I share the findings that have been made in this thread? Naturally, anyone responsible for helping would receive a full credit and thanks for their efforts...
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Post by Horacewimp on Nov 27, 2018 20:44:26 GMT
The lady in blue seems to have a yellow hat on the floor in front of her, the lady in green is also holding a yellow hat, is this significant. What is the lady in blue holding? Is the head on the lady in green superimposed?
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Post by Timeblue on Nov 27, 2018 21:17:00 GMT
The lady in blue seems to have a yellow hat on the floor in front of her, the lady in green is also holding a yellow hat, is this significant. What is the lady in blue holding? Is the head on the lady in green superimposed? It's time like this I wish I wasn't colourblind.....
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Post by Timeblue on Nov 27, 2018 21:18:31 GMT
Long before I committed to writing a book about ELO's music, I was studying New Media at Leeds College of Art and Design, where one of my course modules involved creating a presentation on five album covers, including Secret Messages (which I'm sure comes as no surprise to anybody here who knows me). Although I wasn't able to identify all the constituent elements of this piece, instead mentioning that it was simply a collage of works by various classical artists, there is one small piece of trivia that might be of use: the band shot was modified from a picture featured on page 10 of the American official programme for the Time Tour. I'll hopefully be revisiting this subject at much greater length in the near future as I continue work on my ambitious project, so would it be alright if I share the findings that have been made in this thread? Naturally, anyone responsible for helping would receive a full credit and thanks for their efforts... I knew that!
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Post by ShardEnder on Nov 27, 2018 22:38:07 GMT
The lady in blue seems to have a yellow hat on the floor in front of her, the lady in green is also holding a yellow hat, is this significant. What is the lady in blue holding? Is the head on the lady in green superimposed? It's time like this I wish I wasn't colourblind..... I'm also colour blind, though in my case it's lighter shades of blue that cause me the most problems (these appear as either a grey or silver that can sometimes lead to quite painful headaches if I try looking at them for too long), plus an inability to "mix" browns in Photoshop - for another project I'm currently working on, I cheat by constantly referring to a CYMK chart!
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Post by Timeblue on Nov 27, 2018 22:46:31 GMT
Blues,purples and pinks (shades of) and greens and browns. If it's a bright vivid blue,purple or whatever then i'm usually fine...
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